Welcome, Guest

Author Topic: beevac users and builders  (Read 6282 times)

Offline danno

  • Super Bee
  • *****
  • Posts: 2283
  • Gender: Male
beevac users and builders
« on: March 05, 2013, 03:51:44 pm »
I am just finishing a beevac based on the photos from Robo.  All I need to do to finish it is buy a suction hole and cut the hole to install it.   I was thinking that if I went with a 2" hose with a 1" reduced end that it would increase suction only at the tip but velocity would drop off instantly after they were sucked up.  I'm sure this has been tried many times in the past.  Question is it worth doing


Offline danno

  • Super Bee
  • *****
  • Posts: 2283
  • Gender: Male
Re: beevac users and builders
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2013, 08:45:27 am »
No response.  OK let me ask this how many use the smaller 1 1/4" hose and how many use the 2" hose.   Do you have a preference.  My vac is a 1 1/4 but I have to buy the hose and fitting for the suction side.  2" is 30% higher then 1 1/4

Offline my-smokepole

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 84
Re: beevac users and builders
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2013, 09:01:40 am »
I use 2" for two reasons. One it fits my other shop vac  two bigger hole to suck with. Not as much blockage from a clump of bees
David
My-smokepole

Offline danno

  • Super Bee
  • *****
  • Posts: 2283
  • Gender: Male
Re: beevac users and builders
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2013, 10:14:47 am »
Thanks David
As I stated the one I built is from Robos pics.  It has the sloped bottom board to gentallly bring them up to the frames in the box above.   I was thinking of glueing felt to this slop with the thought that it will be softer on them and they can easily get there footing and walk up to the hive body.  Any thoughts?

Offline hardwood

  • Galactic Bee
  • ******
  • Posts: 3482
  • Gender: Male
  • Alysian Apiaries youtube.com/MrBeedude
Re: beevac users and builders
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2013, 10:36:57 am »
Once the bees are in the collection box (whether it is a hive body or screened box) the pressure is reduced and the bees can crawl about easily. I doubt you'll need the felt, just make sure you have a relief valve of some sort in the system so that you can adjust the suction down to where it will gently pull the bees in.

Scott
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

Theodore Roosevelt 1907

Offline fshrgy99

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 203
Re: beevac users and builders
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2013, 08:07:45 pm »
Hi Danno,

I'll be building a vac myself as soon as the snow leaves. I intend to stencil something like ROBOVAC COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT on the side :)
My concern is that a 1" nozzle opening might be inclined to suck up honey (not good from what I've read).

Of course if you're constructed with 2" or 2.5" hose then changing tip size is an easy mod.

Would love to see some pics of the finished model!

Dennis

Offline danno

  • Super Bee
  • *****
  • Posts: 2283
  • Gender: Male
Re: beevac users and builders
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2013, 08:59:52 am »
My main use for this is to vac bee's off my windows during harvest time and swarms that I cant shake so honey shouldn't be a issue.  "INFRINGEMENT " LOL

Offline iddee

  • Universal Bee
  • *******
  • Posts: 10853
  • Gender: Male
Re: beevac users and builders
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2013, 09:24:54 am »
I have both the 1 1/4 and the 2 inch hoses. I use the first one I grab. With good control of the vacuum power, I see no difference.

PS. I have the flat upholstery end to fit both for tight areas and to increase the pickup power without increasing the vac power when needed.
"Listen to the mustn'ts, child. Listen to the don'ts. Listen to the shouldn'ts, the impossibles, the won'ts. Listen to the never haves, then listen close to me . . . Anything can happen, child. Anything can be"

*Shel Silverstein*

Offline my-smokepole

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 84
Re: beevac users and builders
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2013, 09:26:19 am »
Mine main one is a Robo. I use vac fitting from the woodwork supply house to hook up hoses. one day I am going to weld up some due to breakage.
David
My-smokepole

Offline danno

  • Super Bee
  • *****
  • Posts: 2283
  • Gender: Male
Re: beevac users and builders
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2013, 10:09:05 am »
Last night I was eyeballing my wifes whole house vac hose.  I wonder if she would miss it.   

Offline rwurster

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 89
Re: beevac users and builders
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2013, 12:26:25 pm »
Last night I was eyeballing my wifes whole house vac hose.  I wonder if she would miss it.   

lol you're brave
Zone 5a @ 4700 ft. High Desert
Facebook Link

Offline fshrgy99

  • House Bee
  • **
  • Posts: 203
Re: beevac users and builders
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2013, 12:54:03 pm »
Last night I was eyeballing my wifes whole house vac hose.  I wonder if she would miss it.   

Good idea but how would I do our vacuuming? :?

Offline gefdef

  • New Bee
  • *
  • Posts: 15
Re: beevac users and builders
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2013, 09:54:01 am »
I use swimming pool cleaner hose.  Has 38mm  inside diameter.

Geoff

Offline Intheswamp

  • Super Bee
  • *****
  • Posts: 1501
    • BeeWeather.com
Re: beevac users and builders
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2013, 11:49:21 am »
danno, I was re-reading through this and saw where you were contemplating putting felt on the sloped board of the bottom.  I would be hesitant to do that being as bee legs might get caught up in the fuzz trapping or injuring a good many bees.  The Aussies are using Handi-Wipe types of wipes as SHB traps but report some bees get trapped in the "fuzz" also.  There are also reports of using "felt" as a trap.  Just thought I'd mention it...

Ed
www.beeweather.com 
American blood spilled to protect the freedom and peace of people all over the world.  320,000 USA casualties in WWI, 1,076,000 USA casualties in WWII, 128,000 USA casualties in the Korean War, 211,000 casualties in the Vietnam "conflict", 57,000 USA casualties in "War on Terror".  Benghazi, Libya, 13 USA casualties. These figures don't include 70,000 MIA.  But, the leaders of one political party of the United States of America continue to make the statement..."What difference does it make?".

"We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism."..."The press is our chief ideological weapon." - Nikita Khrushchev

"Always go to other people’s funerals, otherwise they wont come to yours." - Yogi Berra

Offline danno

  • Super Bee
  • *****
  • Posts: 2283
  • Gender: Male
Re: beevac users and builders
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2013, 01:21:18 pm »
Thanks Ed   I finished the vac without the felt idea last weekend.   I am still kicking around a upgraded model using a nutone central vac hose with a nutone flush wall mount fitting.  These are low voltage with a switch at the nozzle end.  A simple relay, 12volt transformer and 110 power supply and the shop vac could be operated with the touch of a thumb right off the nozzle.   Also the wall adaptors have a spring loaded door that would shut when the hose is removed

Offline tefer2

  • Super Bee
  • *****
  • Posts: 2318
  • Gender: Male
Re: beevac users and builders
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2013, 07:05:41 pm »
While vacuuming bees you need to leave it running when you have bees in the catch box. The suction creates excess heat and it's enough to cook them when not running. Always have a screened top under the lid that you can expose after shut off. I also carry a spray bottle of water to give them a drink through the screen.

 

anything