Joe and Heidi, welcome to our forum, so nice that you can take care of bees as that couple, beautiful. Come on back, stick around, this will be a place where you can tell us your stories, tales, and so many experiences that will be yours to share. We love new members. This will also be a place where you can lean on many people for answers to any question that you would like asked about the bees and other things too. So nice that you caught that swarm, tell us how the cutout went. Have a most wonderful day, to love and live with great health. Cindi