I just read barnies post and the answers. It sounds like I might have missed the queen, Now the question is, they are twenty miles from the queen, if I missed her. so if they swarmed again do they still stay in a bunch without the queen as I had had the idea that they formed the swarm around the queen, If this means they don't ahave a queen I will combine them with one of the swarms that are already settled in with the newspaper method, so tell what you think. I might of just let them loose too quickly and they were still wanting to swarm.