one of my hives was queenless with a dwidling population. 3 days ago i decided to just shake the remaining bees into another hive & store the woodenware & frames. went into it this morning & there may have been 1/2 lb. of bees left. as i pulled the frames i found & killed around 15 moths. no webs yet so they were just getting started. all those frames are in the freezer. just goes to show what a strong & healthy hive can withstand.