I'm guessing it was a temporary problem with the ss.webring.com servers because it has now disappeared. I had tried connecting directly to ss.webring.com with the same results. FYI Firefox browser, which has intermittent problems with Java. No chance to test with other browsers, sorry. Gotta love computing. And so it goes. When clients ask these questions I do my best to figure out why, but many times I just shrug my shoulders and say I dunno. Thank you for responding.