A couple of years ago, I bought a ventilated jacket with the fencing-style veil, from Mann Lake. I have been very satisfied with it. If there is any breeze, that jacket it much cooler to me than a regular style jacket. I have only been stung about four times through this jacket. Those four stings were in the forearm, where the vented material changes over to a solid material. I don't wear gloves to cover my forearms. Bees cannot sting through any of the other parts of the suit. Well worth the money.