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Title: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: annette on July 03, 2008, 03:53:47 pm
I want to share this photo with you all because a very good friend made them for me. Well he has moved far away and now I need some more hive stands like this. I was wondering if anyone knows where I can purchase a stand like this. I am not handy and they would need to be assembled,or at least something that would be easy to assemble with instructions. They are good sturdy stands and you can see how the hive sits down in the stand on a recessed lip of wood, making it so strong.


(http://i29.tinypic.com/vq0is2.jpg)

What do you think??

Thanks Annette
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: Keith13 on July 03, 2008, 04:11:28 pm
those suckers sure do look solid :shock: no doubt about it.
sorry I do not know where you might be able to order any though.

Keith
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: Ross on July 03, 2008, 04:27:15 pm
Wow, I thought they were truck stands, not hive stands :).  Most any handyman type should be able to reproduce them.  I couldn't afford to put all of my hives on those.  Another option is a treated 4x6 available at any Home Depot/Lowes/lumberyard.  Have them cut it into 20" or so lengths for you if you want individual stands, or leave it 8' long if you want a row of hives.  Two sticks about 16" apart (one at the front, one at the back) make a stand 5.5" high. 
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: Robo on July 03, 2008, 05:17:42 pm
They look like the ones a lot of European's use.  I don't know of any commercial place here in the US that sells them.


rob....
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: rast on July 04, 2008, 11:36:52 pm
 Annette, even if I made em for ya for free, I don't think you would want to pay the freight on em from Fl. Be cheaper to have some local handyman make em for you. The secret is find free scrap lumber.
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: annette on July 05, 2008, 01:27:46 am
I may have to find someone locally to just make them for me. It will be expensive for sure. These are made of redwood.

Thanks for the information guys,

Annette
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: JP on July 05, 2008, 08:25:35 am
Annette, I bet you're handier than you realize. May I make a suggestion, why don't you hire someone to go with you to home depot or wherever, with the dimensions of the wood for your stands to be cut, then y'all go back and let them show you how to put them together.

You know the saying, give a man a fish and he eats for a day, show him how to fish...


...JP
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: Jerrymac on July 05, 2008, 09:13:55 am
You know the saying, give a man a fish and he eats for a day, show him how to fish...

And he capsizes the boat and drowns  :?
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: JP on July 05, 2008, 09:18:53 am
You know the saying, give a man a fish and he eats for a day, show him how to fish...

And he capsizes the boat and drowns  :?

Exactly!! ;) :-P


...JP
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: jimmyo on July 05, 2008, 10:03:52 am
You know the saying, give a man a fish and he eats for a day, show him how to fish...

And he capsizes the boat and drowns  :?

Exactly!! ;) :-P


"teach him to fish with dynamite and the whole village gets to eat." 
Save a tree and use concrete blocks for a hive stand. they are cheap and they never rot and fall over.
Jim
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: annette on July 05, 2008, 01:28:39 pm
Yes, I know the concrete blocks are an option and they may be what I will go with for now on. I will go to Home Depot and look and see what the concrete blocks looks like.

thanks to you all.

Annette
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: annette on July 05, 2008, 01:33:13 pm
Annette, I bet you're handier than you realize. May I make a suggestion, why don't you hire someone to go with you to home depot or wherever, with the dimensions of the wood for your stands to be cut, then y'all go back and let them show you how to put them together.

You know the saying, give a man a fish and he eats for a day, show him how to fish...


...JP

JP for now on, I will watch and observe more how things are put together so I will not be so helpless.

The only problem is, I do something once and then forget how it was done. If I was doing this same thing over and over again, boy I sure would learn. My friend who built these for me, showed me how to put together the brushy mt supers I received in the mail. I actually did all the drilling myself and put them all together under his experienced eye.  But next time, I wonder if I will remember which drill bit to use, etc. It is just a fear of doing something I am not used to doing. I was brought up to be a "princess", and I have been unlearning this my whole life.
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: poka-bee on July 05, 2008, 02:59:38 pm
Annette I am good @ the "monkey work" as long as I'm shown how.  I mark my things w different nail polishes or paints, keeping in mind a color for each type of project so all I have to do is remember chix, orange or bees white..I also try to get a system, always doing the same steps in same order so I don't forget. You are much more "handy" than you know, you just have to find how YOU learn & remember (maybe even writing it down) even if it's unorthodox or others snicker in the background..I always end up saying (in a strident voice) "FINE!!  keep laughing at me & you can do it!!" :evil: We all have different gifts & strengths,so just have to find what works for each of us.  My Husband looks @ a plant & it turns brown..can't observe animal "language" to see whats happening next or what he did to elicit a certain reaction.  I wig out mechanical things all the time, sometimes just walking past.  You guys out there would have a field day laughing @ me trying to use such things or build something!  Jody
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: JP on July 05, 2008, 04:31:47 pm
Annette, I bet you're handier than you realize. May I make a suggestion, why don't you hire someone to go with you to home depot or wherever, with the dimensions of the wood for your stands to be cut, then y'all go back and let them show you how to put them together.

You know the saying, give a man a fish and he eats for a day, show him how to fish...


...JP

JP for now on, I will watch and observe more how things are put together so I will not be so helpless.

The only problem is, I do something once and then forget how it was done. If I was doing this same thing over and over again, boy I sure would learn. My friend who built these for me, showed me how to put together the brushy mt supers I received in the mail. I actually did all the drilling myself and put them all together under his experienced eye.  But next time, I wonder if I will remember which drill bit to use, etc. It is just a fear of doing something I am not used to doing. I was brought up to be a "princess", and I have been unlearning this my whole life.

Aaaaaah, Princess, I just may have to talk to Dallas now, think we found your pet name, heehee.

Annette, if you want individual stands its hard to beat a few cinder blocks. They are cheap and you can set them up in say, 10 seconds, ok perhaps I'm exaggerating a bit, 12 seconds tops!!

Of course they don't look as pretty as the ones you showed us but easy and cheap is hard to beat, hey I think I just described Rob!!! :-* :-* :-* :-D

Oh shoot!! He can edit anything I write, dang!!! ;) :shock:


...JP
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: annette on July 05, 2008, 11:45:57 pm
Yeah!  I am just spoiled with those beautiful stands my friend build. (how dare he get married and move away). But It's cinder block time for me now.

I have been called "Princess" many times in my life (in fact by the same guy who built me those hive stands). I am in denial about it, and I truly believe I am making efforts to change. But then again, I just love it when I can get a man to help me with something.

Taking up beekeeping is one of the things in my life that has helped me to change myself. Like I said in an earlier post maybe last year, I used to spend endless hours just shopping at malls and spending money. Now I hardly even get dressed up, except to go to work, and I am so used to being hot and dirty from working with the bees. Some days I even forget to put my jewelry on (!!!Heavens!!)

I am much happier now than I have ever been.

Take care
Annette
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: JP on July 05, 2008, 11:52:59 pm
Annette, get ya some blocks and be done with it. Sometimes simple is better, Princess! ;)


...JP
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: SgtMaj on July 06, 2008, 01:09:00 am
Blocks don't look that good though... and those stands are easy to make.

PS - Annette, if you still need them, I could make them for you.  You're a bit far to pick them up, so you'd have to pay shipping.  I could do one for you at just the cost of shipping if you don't mind pressure treated wood for the legs, but any more than one, or if you wanted non-treated legs, I'd need to charge you for the wood, too.  I would need a couple of measurements off the ones you have in order to make them identical as well... just need total height, length and width.
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: annette on July 07, 2008, 12:23:47 am
Annette I am good @ the "monkey work" as long as I'm shown how.  I mark my things w different nail polishes or paints, keeping in mind a color for each type of project so all I have to do is remember chix, orange or bees white..I also try to get a system, always doing the same steps in same order so I don't forget. You are much more "handy" than you know, you just have to find how YOU learn & remember (maybe even writing it down) even if it's unorthodox or others snicker in the background..I always end up saying (in a strident voice) "FINE!!  keep laughing at me & you can do it!!" :evil: We all have different gifts & strengths,so just have to find what works for each of us.  My Husband looks @ a plant & it turns brown..can't observe animal "language" to see whats happening next or what he did to elicit a certain reaction.  I wig out mechanical things all the time, sometimes just walking past.  You guys out there would have a field day laughing @ me trying to use such things or build something!  Jody

Jody,

Thank you for trying to inspire me to be more handy. I will keep an open mind and think positive thoughts that I can do anything I want. I know that I can probably learn most anything, but as I mentioned in this post, if I do not keep doing the same thing over and over, I will forget. Especially when it comes to using tools. I never picked up a tool in my life until I started beekeeping. I usually purchase everything assembled. But I like your system of writing things down. That is something I need to do also.

Take care Jody
Love
Annette
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: annette on July 07, 2008, 12:25:05 am
Blocks don't look that good though... and those stands are easy to make.

PS - Annette, if you still need them, I could make them for you.  You're a bit far to pick them up, so you'd have to pay shipping.  I could do one for you at just the cost of shipping if you don't mind pressure treated wood for the legs, but any more than one, or if you wanted non-treated legs, I'd need to charge you for the wood, too.  I would need a couple of measurements off the ones you have in order to make them identical as well... just need total height, length and width.

Wow!! This is a very generous offer and yes I am interested. I will PM you with details.
Annette
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: Kathyp on July 07, 2008, 12:41:20 am
annette, they look like something you could build.  can you take measurements and reproduce??. 
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: annette on July 07, 2008, 12:51:38 am
annette, they look like something you could build.  can you take measurements and reproduce??. 

This would definitely be beyond anything I can do KathyP. I would have to have someone help me every step of the way.
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: nepenthes on July 07, 2008, 01:32:13 am
Well I dont know how to make those but I got something that I use that works great, get some nice sized treated wood, thick enough to hold up hives.
its messy but you get the idea...
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/alaskaheadbanger/Bee%20Hives/b02aa252.jpg)

take 5 cinder blocks on each side, two long side down, three standing up, run the wood through it, and you should be able to fit up to 3 hives on it.
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: Kathyp on July 07, 2008, 10:42:35 am
RR ties :-).  can't get much easier than that!
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: poka-bee on July 07, 2008, 10:54:04 am
Yes RR ties but only if you have someone to help you drag em around..they are pretty heavy by yourself! :shock: They do stay put forever & don't wiggle or even move much during an earthquake!  Jody
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: JP on July 07, 2008, 11:15:31 am
Yes RR ties but only if you have someone to help you drag em around..they are pretty heavy by yourself! :shock: They do stay put forever & don't wiggle or even move much during an earthquake!  Jody

I use 4 x 4's and cinder blocks, works for me.


...JP
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: Kathyp on July 07, 2008, 03:12:24 pm
my big green machine with the front loader moves mine.  all i have to do is roll them onto the scoop.   ;)
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: poka-bee on July 07, 2008, 07:31:08 pm
my big green machine with the front loader moves mine.  all i have to do is roll them onto the scoop.   ;)
Kathy I'm "green" with envy!!  Oh how I could use one of those, the things I could do...!!   :roll:  Jody
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: octagon on July 14, 2008, 09:09:31 am
I may have to find someone locally to just make them for me. It will be expensive for sure. These are made of redwood.

Thanks for the information guys,

Annette

 i would have the legs made about 8 inches higher so they could set in cans of oil if ants are a problem.JMO
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: annette on July 14, 2008, 12:04:05 pm
I do not have any problems with ants. The first year I placed my hive table in cans of oil and many bees drowned in that oil. So I never place anything that can catch liquid so close to the bees.
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: JP on July 14, 2008, 12:49:55 pm
I do not have any problems with ants. The first year I placed my hive table in cans of oil and many bees drowned in that oil. So I never place anything that can catch liquid so close to the bees.

Annette, you can smear grease on the legs to keep the ants out, doesn't have to be liquid, only thing is you have to reapply it occasionally.

Some swear by Cinnamon, I'm not sure how well it works myself and you have to reapply it as well, but for someone who has bees right in their backyard reapplications aren't  a problem.


...JP
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: annette on July 14, 2008, 01:21:11 pm
Yes, I have heard about using the grease, but I have used cinnamon also and it worked great. I really do not have much trouble with the ants. Just sometimes in the beginning of the season, but not in the summertime.

Take care
Annette
Title: Re: Hive stands need them!!
Post by: contactme_11 on July 21, 2008, 09:41:50 pm
Blocks don't look that good though... and those stands are easy to make.

PS - Annette, if you still need them, I could make them for you.  You're a bit far to pick them up, so you'd have to pay shipping.  I could do one for you at just the cost of shipping if you don't mind pressure treated wood for the legs, but any more than one, or if you wanted non-treated legs, I'd need to charge you for the wood, too.  I would need a couple of measurements off the ones you have in order to make them identical as well... just need total height, length and width.

If you still need help I would be willing to do the same for you