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Offline KeyLargoBees

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Hold Harmless agreement...anyone ever actually "need" it?
« on: May 12, 2016, 08:59:58 AM »
I have seen a few posts on this forum and even one with a link to an online form....question is has anyone ever had to "use" one of these documents in any sort of legal proceeding? I ran a dive/snorkel charter business for years and had a standard liability form that the clients signed before they went out on the boat....12 years in business thousands of customers and nary a law suit.....but have had numerous lawyers tell me the liability release agreement (not mine but in general)  isn't worth the paper its written on....so why would the hold harmless be any different. If someone is going to sue they are going to sue whether they signed an agreement or not ...and the legal system will ignore any sort of signed agreement that was entered into prior to the job going south.

Just curious if anyone has real experience with a bad situation and either an actual lawsuit or a threatened one.
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Re: Hold Harmless agreement...anyone ever actually "need" it?
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2016, 10:51:13 AM »
Can't comment on having any experience.

My thought on the utility of the paper --

I would classify people in 3 basic categories (though this is more of a continuum than categories):

1)  People who would never sue

2) Those who would be reluctant to sue, but might if the problem is egregious enough

3) Those who would sue at any problem.

Category (1) you wouldn't have to worry about.  Category (3) will sue you anyways (unless a document is iron-clad, and very few are).  But the paper might stop category (2) from even bothering to talk to a lawyer, so they wouldn't necessarily know that that the paper is basically worthless.

My 2 cents.

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Re: Hold Harmless agreement...anyone ever actually "need" it?
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2016, 05:40:24 PM »
That sounds about right Chris.
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