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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => HONEYBEE REMOVAL => Topic started by: Haddon on March 15, 2012, 12:39:39 pm

Title: Bore Scope ?? and where are the bees
Post by: Haddon on March 15, 2012, 12:39:39 pm
Is a harbor frieght bore scope a good option??

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital-inspection-camera-67979.html (http://www.harborfreight.com/digital-inspection-camera-67979.html)


And now again lets play where are the bees?

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Lady said they had taken siding off once and scraped comb out of there, but she says during the hot summer it sounds like they are in the ceiling and that a bedroom might be directly over that spot or maybe crawl space.
Title: Re: Bore Scope ?? and where are the bees
Post by: beyondthesidewalks on March 15, 2012, 12:44:28 pm
Everytime I've removed bees from a 2 story house, they were in the joists between the floors.  Probably is the warmest and coolest option for them.
Title: Re: Bore Scope ?? and where are the bees
Post by: Robo on March 15, 2012, 01:00:06 pm
The problem I have when using a bore scope is that they are great if you are going in straight,  but any more than one bend becomes an issue.
Title: Re: Bore Scope ?? and where are the bees
Post by: Haddon on March 15, 2012, 01:06:07 pm
Thats were I was thinking.

If they are do you do it from inside or outside.

I mean if it was in the middle of a wall I would say out side but that corner has me worried. That they will be in the joist I cant easily get to.

Also lady keeps thinking I can get to them in the attic space tried telling her I dont know if that would be true from what she told me.

Robo so do you say buy one or not. JP told me last year I had to get one and if so is the one I linked okay.

Oh side note I am looking at buying a massey 35 with bushog for 1500 what do yall think I have never been around a massey everyone here was to po for those we all had fords.
Title: Re: Bore Scope ?? and where are the bees
Post by: Robo on March 15, 2012, 01:24:38 pm
I can't recommend to buy one or not.  All I can say is that I get less use out of mine than I had hoped for.   Can't speak for the one you listed.  I have the same Pro Vision one as JP,  it only requires drilling a 1/4" hole.  Most of the others require 1/2" or bigger.


http://djvmerchandise.com/pro1409886.html (http://djvmerchandise.com/pro1409886.html)
Title: Re: Bore Scope ?? and where are the bees
Post by: hardwood on March 16, 2012, 12:30:05 am
I've got the same one and use it quite a bit. Is it needed? no. Is it useful? Absolutely.

Scott
Title: Re: Bore Scope ?? and where are the bees
Post by: schawee on March 16, 2012, 12:53:01 am
haddon,they should be in the floor joist.if you have a infrared temperature gun you can use it to locate where they are and the bore scope to determine how deep they are in.i did one last week and they were in about 3 1/2 feet. .i did it from the outside but 4 feet would be max for going from the outside..second option would be going through the floor above them if possible.third option would be going through the ceiling which is my last choice.as for the bore scope ,the pro vision works good.1/4 inch hole and your in.if you need to look up just dril the hole on a 45degree .    ......schawee
Title: Re: Bore Scope ?? and where are the bees
Post by: JP on March 16, 2012, 10:21:21 am
I don't ever recall telling anyone they "needed" a borescope but they do come in very handy.  Ditto on the Provision & 1/4". I usually choose to go in from the floor above if you can. The infrared thermometer only picks up heat & in many cases is accurate in giving you a good idea of the size of the cluster but... It obviously will not show you comb bees are not covering. If you go in from the outside & they are more than say 4' further in you will have to go in & open the floor or ceiling anyway. Two jobs in one, no thanks!


...JP
Title: Re: Bore Scope ?? and where are the bees
Post by: Haddon on March 16, 2012, 05:13:35 pm
hardwood you have that same cheap one??

Also has anyone thought how nice would be if we could plug on into our smart phones?

Title: Re: Bore Scope ?? and where are the bees
Post by: hardwood on March 17, 2012, 12:53:32 am
I use the same one that JP has...he's the one that turned me on to the source a couple of years ago. I seem to recall it was $89 at the time.

Scott
Title: Re: Bore Scope ?? and where are the bees
Post by: Haddon on March 19, 2012, 03:08:54 pm
Well Yall need to be turning me on to this source too.
don't hide the good deals.
Title: Re: Bore Scope ?? and where are the bees
Post by: Scott Derrick on March 26, 2012, 12:31:34 am
I have had three scopes and the one I like best is the smaller scope that was made for injector ports. I have a scope with a flexible 6 foot cable and do use it from time to time when needed. I know my customers really like seeing the screen and bees when I find them. I really shows that I know what I'm doing and builds their confidence in my ability. Harbor Freight carries one that is very similar to the one I use. I am going to purchase this one this year because it had a SD Card Slot for recording. The thing I like about the smaller fiber optic cable is that you can fit it into small crevices and you don't have drill a 1/2 inch hole.

I have to admit the longer I do removal the less I use the scopes. My best friend is the IR Laser Thermometer. I got this one from HF and it works as well if not better then the the one I got from Lowes for $80.
http://www.harborfreight.com/non-contact-laser-thermometer-96451.html (http://www.harborfreight.com/non-contact-laser-thermometer-96451.html)

Here is a link to Fiber optic Camera the one I'm going to get this year from Harbor Freight.
http://www.harborfreight.com/high-resolution-digital-inspection-camera-with-recorder-67980.html?hftref=cj (http://www.harborfreight.com/high-resolution-digital-inspection-camera-with-recorder-67980.html?hftref=cj)

One thing I'd really like to have is a Thermal Imaging Camera from Flir but they are way outside my price range.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FLIR-i7-Thermal-Imaging-InfraRed-Camera-w-Case-NIB-/230766706733?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35bac4802d#ht_1066wt_1396 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FLIR-i7-Thermal-Imaging-InfraRed-Camera-w-Case-NIB-/230766706733?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35bac4802d#ht_1066wt_1396)
Title: Re: Bore Scope ?? and where are the bees
Post by: SkepWrangler on July 17, 2012, 03:33:23 am
Here is a link to Fiber optic Camera the one I'm going to get this year from Harbor Freight.
http://www.harborfreight.com/high-resolution-digital-inspection-camera-with-recorder-67980.html?hftref=cj (http://www.harborfreight.com/high-resolution-digital-inspection-camera-with-recorder-67980.html?hftref=cj)
Hi Scott,
Great post, thanks for the recommendations.  Just FYI (and I'm not complaining, just reporting) I checked into the customer reviews on the Harbor Freight site.  It seems that this particular inspection camera has some pretty negative feedback related to falling apart even in gentle use.
I hope they have fixed the assembly issues by now.  This is clearly a powerful camera compared to the $99 little brother that HF also sells.
Thanks,
SkepWrangler
Title: Re: Bore Scope ?? and where are the bees
Post by: Intheswamp on July 17, 2012, 11:00:10 am

Also has anyone thought how nice would be if we could plug on into our smart phones?
I don't know much about smart phones...when I went to get one they said I wasn't smart enough to have one...   :idunno:

Anyhow, would one of those usb endoscope cameras that are flooding eBay work with a smart phone?

Ed
Title: Re: Bore Scope ?? and where are the bees
Post by: duck on July 24, 2012, 07:22:39 pm
http://www.harborfreight.com/high-resolution-digital-inspection-camera-with-recorder-67980.html (http://www.harborfreight.com/high-resolution-digital-inspection-camera-with-recorder-67980.html)

i got the next step up and it does good.  I can usually get it to turn about 60 degrees and get a look around.  save pics to sd or internal memory and pull them off with usb.  decent resolution not hd.. it has a really bright led that you can really turn up the brightness on.