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Title: Does anyone know when SHB reproduction shuts down?
Post by: RHBee on November 24, 2012, 04:25:50 pm
I asked this question in the disease and pest control section. No one has rogered up so I thought I would throw it out to a larger audience.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Does anyone know when SHB reproduction shuts down?
Post by: tefer2 on November 24, 2012, 06:31:16 pm
My guess would be when you stop seeing ants crawling around.
Title: Re: Does anyone know when SHB reproduction shuts down?
Post by: AllenF on November 24, 2012, 09:43:56 pm
I am sure it is related to the temp outside.  But I do not know what it is.  I saw beetles Friday in the hives, but no worms. 
Title: Re: Does anyone know when SHB reproduction shuts down?
Post by: Jim134 on November 24, 2012, 10:58:20 pm
You can see (Adults) SHB in the hives all year long in VT.





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Title: Re: Does anyone know when SHB reproduction shuts down?
Post by: tefer2 on November 24, 2012, 11:47:04 pm
Small hive beetles are able to pupate when the soil temperature is 10c-50f or higher. They winter with the cluster through winter. Google is your friend if you can't find it in here.
Title: Re: Does anyone know when SHB reproduction shuts down?
Post by: BlueBee on November 25, 2012, 12:04:10 am
Do you have these little monsters over there in Kazoo?
Title: Re: Does anyone know when SHB reproduction shuts down?
Post by: tefer2 on November 25, 2012, 12:17:21 am
I have seen a few this season. I hope we get our normal winter weather to keep them frozen.
Title: Re: Does anyone know when SHB reproduction shuts down?
Post by: RHBee on November 25, 2012, 02:34:18 am
I am sure it is related to the temp outside.  But I do not know what it is.  I saw beetles Friday in the hives, but no worms. 

I think it must be related to temperature also. I sent an email to the University of Florida Entomology Department. They have been fighting the problem for a while. Maybe they will respond. I just would like to remove my bottom traps and put the SBBs on.
Title: Re: Does anyone know when SHB reproduction shuts down?
Post by: RHBee on November 30, 2012, 05:37:27 pm
I sent an email to the University of Florida Entomology Department.
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I got a response today. They don't know. I'll try a couple of other places and see if I can get the desired information. I hope I'm not wasteing your time with this just trying to spread information.
Title: Re: Does anyone know when SHB reproduction shuts down?
Post by: Keith13 on November 30, 2012, 05:54:17 pm
When I take a blow torch to the little bas%!rds
Title: Update: Does anyone know when SHB reproduction shuts down?
Post by: RHBee on December 03, 2012, 02:49:30 pm
OK, there seem to not be a study on this portion of the SHB life cycle.  The best information I have been able to come up with is: From William Meikle of the Carl Hayden Bee Research Center and Kieth Delaplane of The University of Georgia.
Dr. Meikle provided me with a .pdf document that studied the soil temperature effects on pupation. Basically they expected zero at soil temps of 59 degF or less.
Dr. Delaplane offer his best guess as an ambient temperature of 50 degF for the shutdown of egg hatching.
Looks like it will be February before I can install SBBs back on my hives and be able not to worry about SHB for a while. The expected high today is 73 degF.



Title: Re: Does anyone know when SHB reproduction shuts down?
Post by: lazy shooter on December 05, 2012, 06:36:05 pm
I have small ants in and around my hives in the summer.  Do they eat SHB?
Title: Re: Does anyone know when SHB reproduction shuts down?
Post by: RHBee on December 06, 2012, 12:05:01 am
I'm not sure about the ants you are describing but, I have read that some beekeepers down here in the south use fire ants to control SHB.
Title: Re: Does anyone know when SHB reproduction shuts down?
Post by: tryintolearn on December 11, 2012, 10:47:45 am
sc here too..i went in a hive day b4 yesteddy and saw several adults no worms...not alot of feed either wondering if this one will make it...had a bad year with this particular one...built up nicely hive beetles almost got it and it swarmed after that...i combined it with another yet still i am wondering hoping they make it...