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Offline Georgia Boy

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The great divide: a Taranov split
« on: May 06, 2013, 10:28:46 am »

Just thought y'all might find this interesting.

Kinda neat. I know this was a TBH but it stands to reason it would work on any hive type.

Enjoy.

http://www.honeybeesuite.com/the-great-divide-a-taranov-split/

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Re: The great divide: a Taranov split
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2013, 09:47:16 am »
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http://forum.beemaster.com/index.php?topic=31722.0

Ok Finski help me out please. I followed your link in it you mentioned a method you used called a flying swarm. Could you explain more.
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Re: The great divide: a Taranov split
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2013, 06:41:01 pm »
Pretty interesting GB! If you watch any videos of European beeks harvesting the skeps they just shake out the bees and requeen and let the bees figure where to go.
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Re: The great divide: a Taranov split
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2013, 06:50:37 pm »
This is a good way to seperate young bees out for cell starter hives.

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Re: The great divide: a Taranov split
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2013, 02:15:02 am »
And what is the reason to make Shook swarms, Taranov swarms, Snelgrove swarms, Artificial swarms...

This is a serious issue, becaus it upsets the whole hive. Honey making stops right now; Some guys have reported that their brood have died.
Their shook hive returned home...

And why to make suddenly split even if you did not mentioned.


It depends what are you doing? Or just mixing hives' life?

I cannot see any idea in Taranov swarm. At least it is really complex.



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Re: The great divide: a Taranov split
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2013, 03:13:46 am »


Ok Finski help me out please. I followed your link in it you mentioned a method you used called a flying swarm. Could you explain more.

- you move an original hive 10 feet
- put in old site a new hive which has foundations, a food frame and brood frame + laying queen
- bees from original hive fly to the foundation hive. You bees remain in the hive and nurse the brood.
- about half of bees will stay in old hive and they are emerging more all the time.

This is very expencive way to make splits, because the hive will not do honey after operation.
To cut swarming fever this is splended way compared to breaking queen cells.

To get honey yield you must join the hiveparts again.

When artificial swarm starts to draw foundations, it is a sign that they are going to stay in the hive.
After a week they have drawn the combs and they will not swarm again.
If you use drawn combs fow artificial swarm, quite often the swarming fever continues.


To productive hive balance of diffrenet age bees is important. There are foragesr but as important are home bees which take care of brood and handle the nectar and honey.
Bees die all the time and new bees are needed every day. Brood store take care, that there are continuous frow  from 1000 eggs a day - >nurser bees-> honey handling bees -> wax building bees ->foragers - dead 1000 bees a day

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