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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. => Topic started by: Spear on August 11, 2013, 06:59:01 pm
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I have been rather slow this year in getting started with getting bees and have finally gotten my act together enough to get my first 2 colonies of bees - will be getting them on Tuesday. Then today I get a huge surprise from my step father. He read an advert in the newspaper yesterday for 15 bee colonies + accessories for sale. The old man had died suddenly and the wife and 3 grown sons have no interest in keeping the bees. We drove over today (2 hour drive) with trailer in tow hoping to pick them up only to be told that they need a bit of TLC before they can be taken away. Some of them are queenless or weak and will be joined with stronger colonies to bring the number down from 15 to 10 colonies. This should all be taking place in the coming week. The old man was 2nd generation bee keeper so most of the hives are more than 60years old and are being kept in 2 special "cabinets" to keep them out the weather. I plan to move them all as is for now and slowly "up grade" them to new hives over the next few years. I will try post pics next week.
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Congratulations! I'd check them out good to make sure they're disease free.
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Thanks. It is law here in Germany to have a health certificate for your bees before selling or moving them so they have been checked by the local bee health inspector who discovered the queenless hives and is going to combine them with stronger hives and treat for varoa etc before I can take them "home" with me.
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Spear, what about your skills? How many years experience you have?
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Congratulations Spear. X:X
Don’t let Finski rain on your parade :thunder: Keeping bees isn’t exactly rocket science and the more you have the faster you will learn.
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I am totally new to beekeeping but I have many great experianced beekeepers close at hand to help with anything anytime :-)
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I am totally new to beekeeping but I have many great experianced beekeepers close at hand to help with anything anytime :-)
With that many colonies having the experienced people around you will be a big plus. You are in the deep end of the pool. Enjoy the swim. I'm cofident you will do well. Enjoy your bees. Welcome to beekeeping and this forum.
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Read, read, read.
Ask ?'s, ask ?'s and ask ?'s.
Work the heck out of your friends! and return the favor one day.
Personally, being a new beek I'd be too scared to tackle that many and too opportunist not to. ;)
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Well, you are going to learn really quick now, thats for sure. good luck and good journeys.
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Congratulations Spear. X:X
Don't let Finski rain on your parade :thunder: Keeping bees isn't exactly rocket science and the more you have the faster you will learn.
And with more hives you can recover faster by sharing resources. Be sure to find out what that old timer was treating the bees with. You will need to do the same treatments that he used. With those old hives, if he used Terramycin, you will need to use it. I hate to tell any new beek to use any treatments at all but most long time Beekeepers have been using that stuff to keep AFB under control and if you stop, it will wipe out those hives in no time.
A friends daughter bought a several old hives and split them and in 2 years the inspector had to burn all seven of their hives. This is the only case of AFB that we have had in this area for quite a while.
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Don’t let Finski rain on your parade
I wonder how it could happen?
Bluebee is much more dangerous to bees than difficult winter.
Take care. He has a secret recipe for "Karl Marx birthday honey balls", with which you can kill all hives without pains.
They are working well in Alaska.
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phase out the old equipment as fast as you can. definitely find out what treatments were used.
once you start using antibiotics you usually can't stop. i bought some nucs in january and 2 out of 3 had afb by april. i'd bet everything i have that the guy i bought them from used antibiotics and i didn't think to ask.
finski brings up a valid point. you are stepping in pretty deep especially since the season is winding down for the year. on the other hand jim is right about being able to recover quickly if you do have a problem.
good luck and have fun.
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After getting everything "cleaned up' as well as you can, maybe you can combine some of the weaker hives with the stronger hives to get them thru the winter and lower the number you need to care for. That can give you the winter to prepare to make nukes so they dont swarm come spring.
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Picked up my 1st two hives yesterday and will be collecting the other 10 on Tuesday! So exciting!
As far as I know AFB is not very common here in Germany and the old man who had the bees didn't use any antibiotics in his hives, he only treated for varoa. I'll be getting the stuff that he treated the hives with. Over the winter I'll be preparing to start phasing out the old hives in the spring and will be looking for a more suitable place to stand. :-) :bee:
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(http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/t596/Tracy_Spear/th_S1040001_zps744037d7.jpg) (http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/t596/Tracy_Spear/S1040001_zps744037d7.mp4)
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With the people you have there to help and the words of the ones here, you should do fine. Good luck to you and your bees.
It is very addictive.
Joe
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What part of Germany are located? I have a son stationed at Stuttgart he is married to a local German girl and has two kids.
My Great-great-great-grandfather Schmidt immigrated from Germany in the mid-1800's and brought black German Bees with him to the USA.
That makes me a 6th generation beekeeper in the States and I don't know how many generations were beekeepers back in Germany.
I have 55 years of personal experience as of May of this year.
Always glad to see a new beekeeper.
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What part of Germany are located? I have a son stationed at Stuttgart he is married to a local German girl and has two kids.
My Great-great-great-grandfather Schmidt immigrated from Germany in the mid-1800's and brought black German Bees with him to the USA.
That makes me a 6th generation beekeeper in the States and I don't know how many generations were beekeepers back in Germany.
I have 55 years of personal experience as of May of this year.
Always glad to see a new beekeeper.
brian, do you still have any of that german stock? i haven't seen any in maybe 15 years and i'd trade several of my queens for one of those.
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10 Framer,
They didn't make it through the Depression. My father didn't like the black bees because they were overly aggressive, didn't build up well, and were always stinging him while her hoed the strawberries. One fine May day one of the Italian hives swarmed with a very large swarm so my father hived the Italian swarm in the black bee's hive. When all was said and done the Italian swarm was not so large and the hive of my Great-grandfather's precious black bees were no more.
My mentor and my father were the only two people I knew who actually worked German black bees.
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Brian D. Bray small world tell your son i said hi from Denmark. :)
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there was a guy near me in the early 80's that had about a dozen hives of them. they were mean as all get out but they were pretty productive. i'd see black bees working flowers near my parents old house up until the early 2000's then one year they were jus gone. those hives had been gone for 20 years by then.
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Yippy! Picked up the other 10 hives today.
Left home at 4am and arrived at the bee yard at 6am - My step-father driving. Was once again shown the hives and shown that they were 'sealed' ready for transport. So we strap a hive together & move it to the trailer. The guy - the old mans son - then takes off the strap and says that we just need to make sure that the hives are straped down in the trailer so there is preasure on the lids and all will be fine. So we pack the other 10 the same way. As we are packing about the 8th hive we discuver that it has a 'leak' - the bees have found a hole to get of. This quickly taped shut and the loading continues without farther problems. Then all the other equipment - empty hive boxes with drawen comb etc. - are loaded on the trailer and in the mini bus. So far no problem. Drive home No problem. Stop in the yard and a few bees fly out of the trailer. "Wow!" :shock: I think, " You girls held on the outside all this time." But then more and more bees start flying out! Another leak :shock: !! Now I'm all alone unpacking the trailer and it's starting to look like something out of Steven King movie - Bees everywhere! I suited up to be on the safe side. These free bees have have found the combs in the empty hive boxes and are really enjoying themselves so they don't even notice me, so much so that I must of stepped on thousands of them.
Anyway long story shorter, I managed to move all the hives to their stands with bees flying all over like crazy and only got stung once on the hand because I squashed her as I picked up a box.
Everything is in place and I start opening up the hives. The 3rd hive I open up, among the hundreds of bees 2 tumble out wrestling with a wasp! They fall of the landing board and take off carrying the wasp away over the hedge! :shock: All the sudden insect activity atracted a flock of little birds for a while hoping for an easy meal.
It still looked like a Steven King movie when I left to go home. I hope the 'strays' will find their home or join another hive...
I'll leave them alone for about 1 week before I do any inspections.
Will post picks tomorrow!
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Spear,
The mind picture was perfect.......chaos!!!
Good luck and hope all the ladies settle in a day or two.
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Oh I forgot to mention my Mothers 4 dogs that love to snap at bumble bees and the occational wild bee that wanders into the yard. I had to lock them up before they had a chance to learn the hard way that snapping at bees is not a good idea. When my Mother came home she had more control over the dogs and could tell them not to snap at the bees so she let them out. Even so 2 of them got stung and still tried to snap at the bees - stupid dogs! One of them seems to of perfected the art of catching bees without getting stung because I saw him eating at least 1 bee! The area where the hives are kept has been blocked off so the dogs can't get near them so there should be no problems there.
The hives thenselves are very old and mixed sizes. The old man adapted them so that he could put smaller boxes on top of bigger boxes so atleast 2 of the hives look like a stack of childrens wooden building blocks! Those are the 1st hives that I'm going to replace next spring!
Well if I had little free time before the bees came into my life I have even less now! LOL!
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Sounds like a day you will remember for the rest of your life. Good memories are really the only treasures that no one can take from us.
Well done and have fun.
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The moment you all been waiting for! Pics of my 'new' hives!
(http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/t596/Tracy_Spear/S1070001_zps490bbbbc.jpg) (http://s1315.photobucket.com/user/Tracy_Spear/media/S1070001_zps490bbbbc.jpg.html)
(http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/t596/Tracy_Spear/S1070002_zps3698f497.jpg) (http://s1315.photobucket.com/user/Tracy_Spear/media/S1070002_zps3698f497.jpg.html)
And a short video clip of the chaos (The noise you hear is a train going past.) And please forgive my bad cameramanship. (http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/t596/Tracy_Spear/th_S1060001_zps0d8c2138.jpg) (http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/t596/Tracy_Spear/S1060001_zps0d8c2138.mp4)