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Title: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: Mr T-Bone on April 29, 2007, 11:27:50 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/faber/babies2007130.jpg)
Bambino

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/faber/babies2007022.jpg)
Snoopy and Tigger

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/faber/Lamb008.jpg)
Goliath

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/faber/babies005.jpg)
Rouen ducklings

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/faber/babies007.jpg)
Buff Orpingtons

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/faber/cloverbaby018.jpg)
Ichabod

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/faber/boertwins012.jpg)
Topsy and Turvy

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/faber/pygmybaby005.jpg)
Popsicle

Still expecting 1 more lamb, a Jersey/Angus calf, and a litter of pigs.
Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: Understudy on April 29, 2007, 11:53:42 am
Did the chicks come from brooding or an incubator?

Sincerely,
Brendhan
Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: Mr T-Bone on April 29, 2007, 12:01:07 pm
Did the chicks come from brooding or an incubator?

Sincerely,
Brendhan

Incubator
Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: DayValleyDahlias on April 29, 2007, 07:49:24 pm
Oh how incredibly darling...you have quite a farm...thanks for sharing... :-D
Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: Mici on April 29, 2007, 08:17:36 pm
yeah baby animals are just too cute, one starts thinking if they really deserve to end up on our plates...ah well, few things change when they grow up   :-\

Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: MarkR on April 29, 2007, 08:52:07 pm
Now I can be as sentimental as the next guy, but have you all ever smelled a baby lamb, it smells like . . .lamb!!! :-D  I mean really. . . dinner. . . rack of. . . chops!!  It really freaked me out when I was a kid.


Mark
Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: DayValleyDahlias on April 29, 2007, 11:08:40 pm
I do not eat mammals...none on my plate thank you very much...
Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: Cindi on May 17, 2007, 10:45:59 am
Now those are some really nice pictures.  I see the Roen babies, they look so much like the babies the banties hatched out the other day.  I wonder if the Roen eggs got under the bantie somehow, they are in the same house.  I am going to have to ask my sister if some got mixed up.

We have some Indian Runners hatching out.  There was a turmoil in that hen house and I think that a chicken got in and disturbed the eggs while they were hatching out.  My sister had to bring all the eggs inside to finish incubating.  The Roen's eggs were a mixture of the Roen and Indian Runner and had many crushed and broken up.  I will know today how many eggs were destroyed and how many hatched out.  It was kind of a sad thing.  But things all work out in the wash.  I post details.  Have a wonderful day, great life, great health.  Cindi
Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: Kathyp on May 17, 2007, 05:35:56 pm
i'll confess my ignorance of goats and lambs...i don't mean to sound like someone looking at a dairy cow and wondering where the steaks come from, but do you eat them?

Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: reinbeau on May 17, 2007, 07:41:10 pm
i'll confess my ignorance of goats and lambs...i don't mean to sound like someone looking at a dairy cow and wondering where the steaks come from, but do you eat them?
I know we eat lamb, I love it, but I learned something I had never thought about with regards to goats, which lead to a huge lightbulb going off in my head WRT cows.....to get milk you must have pregnancy and a subsequent baby.  What farms do with baby goats I'm not so sure, but I'm sure that's where the veal industry came from.   :shock:  I had never thought of it!  Hasn't changed my mind WRT eating meat, but it is food for thought (no pun intended).

I do try to eat only the meat that's been raised naturally, and eat eggs only from hens who get to peck around outside like real hens.  However, I am most definitely an omnivore - I need to eat meat, just a bit, once a day.
Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: MarkR on May 17, 2007, 08:24:38 pm
Yep, hate to break it to all you folks who don't eat veal for ethical reasons.  If you drink milk your supporting the veal industry.  So the solution. . . get your own cow.  Borrow a bull.  Raise calf and sell it as an adult.  Or sell the calf to someone who "swears" they won't eat it.  Heck, sell the calf.  Even if they eat it had a life about a thousand times better than the ones that are sold as veal in the supermarket. 

Mark
Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: Cindi on May 18, 2007, 09:46:23 am
Well, I have recently had veal in a restaurant, have never tried it before.  I must say, that I really am quite into that tastly little morsel.  I love meat, I love the rich gravies and sauces I make using the juices...hmmm....miss that wintertime potatoes, gravy, pot roast.  The summer is the bbq, and not an awful lot of juicy sauces are made this time of year.  I do carry on.

I can't wait for all the little Muscovey ducks grow up to be on our tables for dinner.  Now that is meat worth eating, no fat, and lots and lots of meat on these guys.  They are grown for meat birds cause they are so big.  We are getting turkeys within the next week.  Now that is going to be a weird thing around here.  I hope one doesn't chase any of the kids up a tree, like what happened to Brian Bray when he was a kid!!!!!!!

I remember many many years ago when my husband and girls lived with my other sister and her family on the side of a mountain, that a coyote got one of our lambs.  It was still warm when she found it, so she took care of every need and made it into food for the table.  I was so grossed out, to this day I cannot eat lamb, what a cryin' shame.  Cause I know how good baby beef are, I bet baby sheep would be just as good.  Have a wonderful day, great day, love the life your living, great health.  Cindi
Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: Kathyp on May 18, 2007, 12:53:21 pm
i love meat.  just put a 1/4 beef in the freezer.  i just don't know the difference between meat goats or milk goats.  wool sheep or meat sheep.  wondered what he had  :-).  don't care if he eats them!
Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: KONASDAD on May 18, 2007, 02:09:41 pm
P.E.T.A.  member myself. People Eating Tasty Animal!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: DayValleyDahlias on May 18, 2007, 11:18:27 pm
 :-X

I have learned to keep my mouth shut around eat eaters....hhhhmmmm

 :shock:
Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: Mr T-Bone on May 31, 2007, 07:49:03 pm
Sorry I didn't get back to this thread sooner, I've been ill and in the hospital....

To answer your question, we do eat our goats and sheep, as well as our cattle and chickens. We also have one goat for milking, she gives just over 2 quarts a day. We have a Jersey heifer that is due to calf this week, and we will be milking her too. There is a distinct difference between dairy goats and meat goats, I'll try to dig up some pictures soon and show the differences.
Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: Kathyp on May 31, 2007, 10:11:43 pm
sorry you have not been well.  hope you have recovered. 

thanks for the info.  i'll look forward to the pictures.  :-)
Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: Cindi on June 01, 2007, 11:07:08 am
Mr. T. Bone.  Sorry to hear of your malade.

I wish that we had a milker cow.  I love nothing more on earth than the taste of fresh cow's milk.  We had a Jersey many years ago, her name was Candy.  I loved Candy's milk.  As you know, Jersey cows have a huge creme content in their milk, and we used to make so many products from the creme.   My mouth is watering now thinking about that.  I cannot get "raw" milk.  It is against the law to sell it here and I know no one with a cow that I could even coerce into giving me "raw" milk.  I know "raw" milk isn't supposed to be good for you.  But it never did me any harm when I drank so much, so many years ago.  If I had a cow, I would drink it raw.

I can't stand goat's milk.  Maybe it was the way that I took care of it when milking our goats, I don't know.  But to this day, I could not drink the goat milk.  You are lucky to have these milkers at your place.  Have a wonderful day, great life.  Cindi
Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: Kathyp on June 01, 2007, 11:45:54 am
farm people don't get sick off the raw milk.  it's the city folks that want "healthy" stuff that can't hack the bits of bacteria in the milk.  same with eggs.  i quit selling my brown eggs years ago because i was afraid someone would get salmonella and i'd end up in court.
Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: Mici on June 02, 2007, 10:30:06 am
raw milk might be risky, but still there is not only HUGE difference between packed milk and..hmm how to say it..cows milk :-D

we lost our last cow with the last calf, she broke her spine so..she had to go, now we're raising calfs on milk substitute, it's actually easyier, but..it would be nice to have home milk

and i sure do agree with cindi, goat milk, oh thank you NO, we also had a goat..for about 3 years i think, but we actually got tired of her.
Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: Kathyp on June 02, 2007, 11:11:39 am
i had thought about raising meat goats.  there is a market for them here.  after i found out what a PIA they are, i gave up the idea.  one of our 4H moms was doing it.  coyotes got them. they climbed out of fences.  they climbed on everything, including the cars.  our market here is to the Mexican farm workers.  she had to post a NO BUTCHERING sign on here place because when she sold the goats they'd kill them and gut them on the spot.  pretty messy  :-) i decided that they were way more work than they were worth.

now i'm looking at miniature cattle!
Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: Cindi on June 02, 2007, 12:40:41 pm
Mici, aw, how did you cow break her spine?  That is dreadful.  Tell us what happened.

Kathy, you are full of stories too.  Your posts are interesting to say the least.  Goats are a pain no doubt.  I have had them in years gone by and have no interest, too much work.

We had a goat that when I would feed the horses their grains, I would carry the bucket.  That goat was a nuisance for sure.  If she was not in her stall and she managed to get close enough to get her head into the bucket as I was carrying it, it was the worst thing on earth to try and get her head out of the bucket.  I could never in my life believe how strong the neck of a goat is.  Eeeks.  Oh well.

About the people slaying the goat on the sellers property, how rude!!!!  That is a horrible mentality eh?  Hmm...no to goats.  Have a wonderful day, great life.  Cindi
Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: Mici on June 03, 2007, 02:56:43 pm
she broke her spine...2 days before she gave birth to calf, the cause...she was...not old but elder plus the calf we pulled out was...enormous-so was the weight pressure on her spine. she wanted to lay down, but..i don't know i think it just snaped..just like that, or maybe she slipped just a tiny bit-tiny bit too much.
but now that we don't have a cow anymore, things are actually a lot easyer. we breed (grow?) cattle, we buy young calfs-less than a week, and raise them, with cow...you never know how she/he will react, so it was a pain to feed the calf, plus with cow-calf feeding you actually can't tell if he has had enough/too much. and i think you know how bad it is if he gets too much milk. so...of 30 minutes spent in stall, 20 were intendet for calf. it's a lot easyer now.

yeah..goats beee beeeee beeee, just wouldn't shut up. and they eat very little compared to what mess they make out of their hay!
slaying on your yard, well it's easyer and safer to transport a dead goat than it is a live one.
Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: Kathyp on June 03, 2007, 04:54:34 pm
 
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well it's easyer and safer to transport a dead goat than it is a live one.


i think that's why they did it.  i don't think it was to be rude, it just made sense to slaughter on the spot.  different cultures.....
 
Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: Cindi on June 04, 2007, 10:23:51 am
Mici, is there something bad that happens to calves when they get too much milk?  I didn't know that and I don't understand, could you please elaborate on this?  Curiosity is me.  Have a wonderful day, great life, great health.  Cindi
Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: Mici on June 04, 2007, 11:46:35 am
jep, it doesn't do any good for them, that's for sure.
they get umm diarea, and that's realy bad for a young calf, i think that it mostly involves in his digestion so, at least for a week he won't gain any weight or he might even loose weight. and since you can't control his diet (with feeding directly from cow) he can have diarea for..a month? in worst case he can die (but this isn't that often).
anyway, i don't know all that much about it, but it's a really bad thing, that's why more than 3l(twice a day) of milk substitute or milk, is a bad thing.
Title: Re: This springs babies.... (PICS)
Post by: Brian D. Bray on June 06, 2007, 07:55:33 pm
Over feeding calves on milk (or milk replacer) can give them scours (daiharrea).  I've seen calves die from it.  They way we treated it was to reduce the amount of milk being fed by half and adding some molasses to it to thicken it and keep it in the digestive track longer.  Adding flour plus the molasses seemed to work in the really bad cases. 
It might not be what the veternarian would recommend but it worked for my grandparents back in the 1800's and worked for us in the 1950's.