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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => UK / EUROPEAN BEEKEEPING => Topic started by: RHBee on January 25, 2012, 04:49:18 am
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Greetings from a small town near Charleston, South Carolina, USA. I am looking for information regarding the name of or design specifications for the types of hives used in the videos that were produced by the late IWF. The IWF was a German scientific organization that's now bankrupt. They once distributed these videos freely from the IWF's web site.
I would like to construct one of these hives and give it a try. Any help will be appreciated.
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Hello Ray
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do you mean the green hives in the video?
Beekeeping by Rotation System (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKTvp1lupHY#)
Greetings Michael
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Wow... she can really move.
...DOUG
KD4MOJ
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Can't help you either Ray but what a video. She's a lot braver a bee keeper than I am. Good information as well.
John
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The german name from this hive is " Segeberger Beute" with DN ( Deutsch Normal ) frames. The material of this hive is polystyrene.
"She's a lot braver a bee keeper than I am."
John, why do you say, she is braver as you?
Greetings Michael
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Micheal
At some point in the year my bees would have me for lunch if I did not wear a Vail,gloves and a suit.
I'm still learning. This will be my third year keeping bees.
John
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Im sure, someday you will work without any "protective clothings" ;)
Working on my bees:
(http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/2190/langstroth23.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/849/langstroth23.jpg/)
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Greetings Michael
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What's the deal with the plastic below the top cover??
...DOUG
KD4MOJ
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I think it's to keep the bee's from chewing on the styrene, just a guess. I thought that I saw a top entrance hole in the side of the hive bodies, in another video.
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Michael86, can we purchase the Segeberger Beute anywhere in the USA ?
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oops
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Well, this is a difficult question. I dont think you can purchase the "segeberger beute" in USA. I wonder that someone will buy this hive here, because in the USA is Langstroth and Dadant the most available system, or is that not true?
However i have heard about a hive, the name is "Combi-Beute" and also plastic/polystyrene material.
And available for Langstroth, Dadant and for german hives Zander, DN.
Greetings Michael
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Yes, the Langstroth and Dadant are the most popular here in the USA. We have had a lot of interest lately in polystyrene hive bodies. I like the design of the segeberger beute and was wondering if they could be purchased here in the states. I will check into the the Combi-Beute and see what they cost here. Thank you Michael.
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Is it my imagination or are those frames a lot deeper than a Langstroth?
Jim
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Hello Jim,
do you mean the Deutsch Normal frames in the Segeberger Beute? The size of this frame is 370 x 223 mm.
Greetings Michael
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>>The size of this frame is 370 x 223 mm.
370mm = 14.567in or 14 9/16
223mm = 8.780in or 8 25/32
The look bigger than that, but I guess that why they sell measuring tools. :-D
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Michael86,
Yes, those green hives. Wow, I really dropped the ball on this post. For that I apologise. They seem easier to manipulate than the hive bodies I have now (8 frame Lang's). Do they interlock with each other? I really like the top latch.
And yes, She does make this work look easy.
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Betterbee sell polystyrene
http://www.betterbee.com/Products/BeeMax-Hive-Components (http://www.betterbee.com/Products/BeeMax-Hive-Components)
BEE HAPPY Jim 134 :)
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I liked her shoes :-D
She treats her bees a whole lot more than we do for the mites. And her frames and boxes were not glued together as our hives either. Do bees normally not glue polystyrene together like wood boxes or is it her strain of bees?
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At first I didn't see the reason for the plastic material on the top of the hive. The videos don't explain. It appears to serve two purposes, one-it keeps the top from being glued closed, second-it would clear the bees from the top seal area thereby keeping them from being crushed. I'm probably wrong but that's how I see it.
I really like the methods they use. I have started incorporating a few of the manipulation techniques suchs as frame placement all to one side. I have to use a follower board to make first frame removal easier.
I don't see the beekeeper spending a lot of time aligning up the bodies, are they somehow interlocked?
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Hello Ray
do you mean that the hive cant move "away". The hives have a fold on the top.
(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8085/img0001ob.jpg)
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I really do like this design. Interlocking bodies, indestructible components. Thanks Michael. I don't understand why the USA beekeeps have not demanded these types of components. Wood, even cyprus, has a limited life. The bodies would only have to be sized to our existing frames. The interlocking bodies would seem to stand up to the high winds better. I don't know, it could be that this woman makes it all look so easy. :-D
I also really like the bee brush she uses. What is that a goose wing or something? It looks like it works quite well.
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I think the brush are horsehair. I have a bee brush with plastic bristles.
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You can buy them from Swienty.
http://www.swienty.com/shop/default.asp?catid=1085 (http://www.swienty.com/shop/default.asp?catid=1085)