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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => TOP BAR HIVES - WARRE HIVES - LONG HIVES => Topic started by: Apis629 on July 13, 2005, 10:47:19 pm

Title: A TBH question...
Post by: Apis629 on July 13, 2005, 10:47:19 pm
I'm thinking about splitting a colony (currently in a langstroth 10 frame) or making plans to next year two brood cycles before the jacoranda honeyflow.  The only reason I'm bringing this to the forum is that I want to start a TBH.  I realize that there are many different types of TBHs but I wanted answers from someone who is experienced in keeping them.  My main question is, what features (i.e. screened bottom, sloping or virticle sides, etc.)are recomended?
Title: A TBH question...
Post by: Michael Bush on July 13, 2005, 11:52:04 pm
>My main question is, what features (i.e. screened bottom, sloping or virticle sides, etc.)are recomended?

I think sloping or vertical both work fine.  Getting the right comb size for the shape has been a struggle for me to find a comb size and shape that wouldn't collapse.  If you have langstroth hives, I'd build a three box long langstroth box and put 3/8" by 19" by 1 1/4" bars in half of it and 1 1/2" bars for the other half.  Try to get the brood on the 1 1/4" bars and the honey on the 1 1/2" bars.

My TTBH (three box long medium depth langstroth box with top bars) has a SBB, but my KTBH does not.  Both seem to work fine.

There are pictures on my web site:

www.bushfarms.com
Title: A TBH question...
Post by: Phoenix on July 14, 2005, 12:19:16 am
Isn't that a TMLBTBH...? :lol:
Title: A TBH question...
Post by: Michael Bush on July 14, 2005, 08:41:21 am
I thought it was a TBLMDLBWTB

or

three box long medium depth langstroth box with top bars

I haven't quite figured out what TMLBTBH is.
Title: A TBH question...
Post by: Miss Chick-a-BEE on July 14, 2005, 09:24:03 am
Ya all are pretty silly. :) But I took a shot at the TMLBTBH. I think that's a Three Medium Langstroth Box Top Bar Hive? (tongue twister)

Beth
Title: A TBH question...
Post by: Robo on July 14, 2005, 10:28:57 am
Nathan,

I just went thru the same thinking a while back.  The nice thing about TBH is that there is no right answer, so you need to build with the features you find important.

I ended up designing mine from ideas from multiple sights.   The main hive I modeled after the slightly sloped plans this:
http://bwrangler.madpage.com/bee/tmyt.htm

I like the idea of being able to wire a deep langstroth frame to the bottom onf the top bar.   This way I just took a 5 frame nuc and moved it right in.  As they build their own comb,  I will slowly move back the langstroths and eventually remoce them.

I also wanted a working height that didn't require bending over and didn't want to deal with cement blocks,  so I incorporated legs like here:
http://home.comcast.net/%7Ebeekeeper23/TBH.htm

And finally, I didn't want to deal with heavy covers, so I opted for the metal one like here:
http://home.att.net/~mcdonald/bees/hive/crowder/

FYI,  I elected to forgo a SBB since it seems that feral colonies seem to prefer a closed environment and manage the temperature just fine. I don't like to use SBB year round, so adding one with the ability to close it off would just add more complexity to the build that I didn't think was worth it.

There is a wealth of options and knowledge out there on the web, just do your research and come up with what best fits your needs.