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Offline Country Heart

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Re: Too late to trap out?
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2011, 03:59:15 am »
Love the pics - good luck with your project.   :)

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Re: Too late to trap out?
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2011, 07:35:12 am »
Not too high. Everything looks good. Nice job.
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Re: Too late to trap out?
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2011, 08:33:10 am »
Thanks guys. Just uploading my day one trap out video to youtube now.
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Re: Too late to trap out?
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2011, 09:09:21 am »
Heres a quick picture. I'm concerned the box may be a tad too high?


Not to high at all.  I like to get the hive as close as possible.  Ideally, the cone would sit right in the corner between the extension of the bottom board and the front of the hive body.   This way , those bees clustering on the bottom of the cone would be on the bottom board.

Looks good though.  The fact that they are clustering at the base of the cone is a good sign your black mesh is working.
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Re: Too late to trap out?
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2011, 10:53:00 am »
Robo, do you think a popsicle/craft stick would work for a "bridge" to let the cluster at the bottom of the cone an easy walk to the landing board?  Seems I've seen that idea used before.  ???

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Re: Too late to trap out?
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2011, 11:43:52 am »
Looking great so far.

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Re: Too late to trap out?
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2011, 12:21:41 pm »
Ok guys, this is the video of day one. Please point out anything I could do better.

Trap out - Day 1


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« Last Edit: November 05, 2011, 02:25:26 pm by Robo »
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Re: Too late to trap out?
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2011, 02:04:17 pm »
Looks good to me, Shane.  It makes you wonder if that lone bee would have made it back in if the screen had been regular gray #8 hardware cloth?  I saw several venturing into the box, though!  Time will tell...

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Re: Too late to trap out?
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2011, 02:36:26 pm »
Robo, do you think a popsicle/craft stick would work for a "bridge" to let the cluster at the bottom of the cone an easy walk to the landing board?  Seems I've seen that idea used before.  ???

Ed
You could, wouldn't hurt anything,  but not required at this point.   Once some of the bees find the brood frame, they will pull in the others.  Coroplast (plastic cardboard) election signs are my favorite material to carry with me when setting up a trap out.  It is easy to cut and shape, but is still stiff enough to hold shape.

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Re: Too late to trap out?
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2011, 02:39:06 pm »
Ok guys, this is the video of day one. Please point out anything I could do better.

What, no bee suit?   :)

Looking good,  just keep an eye on it for the next day and make sure they don't find/create another entrance.    It was hard to tell by the video where that bee that re-entered the cone came from.   Had she exited the cone and walked around and then back in (not uncommon to see happen at first)  or was she actually in flight and returned to the tip of the cone?

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Re: Too late to trap out?
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2011, 07:46:40 pm »
Thanks guys.

Robo as much as I wanted to wear a suit, it was just too hot. Plus I didn't want to look like a big girl in the video  :-D

I'm not sure where that one bee came from. I watched the cone for a long time yesterday and didn't see any bees going back to the end of it. I just happened to spot that one bee when I was editing the video.

Thanks for embedding the video for me to.

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Re: Too late to trap out?
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2011, 09:59:17 pm »
An advantage of having an SBB is that I can get my head under and see the activity inside. There was plenty of activity both sides of the frame with the eggs.

Quick morning video:

Trap out - Day 2 Morning after setting the trap out
« Last Edit: November 09, 2011, 11:48:32 pm by ShaneJ »
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Re: Too late to trap out?
« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2011, 10:17:56 pm »
Take note, Shane. There are foragers returning from the field and going directly into the catch box. That is a sure beginning sign of success. As those numbers increase, the time for a newly exited bee to find the box will decrease. If they don't find a new entrance, I think you are well on the way.
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Re: Too late to trap out?
« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2011, 10:47:18 pm »
Thanks Iddee,  Without your instructional posts and your valued input here on this forum, I would of surely failed already. Actually I probably wouldn't even attempted this.

Thanks mate

Take note, Shane. There are foragers returning from the field and going directly into the catch box. That is a sure beginning sign of success. As those numbers increase, the time for a newly exited bee to find the box will decrease. If they don't find a new entrance, I think you are well on the way.
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Re: Too late to trap out?
« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2011, 11:10:39 pm »
Now I would suggest you watch a few of Hardwood's videos on trap outs. He has much more experience with SHB in trap outs than I do. They can devastate a trapped hive quickly.
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Re: Too late to trap out?
« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2011, 05:17:01 am »
I noticed that Scott puts his frame of eggs in 2 days after setting the trap. I assume this is limit attracting SHB to the trap box until there are enough bees in there to protect the eggs?
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Re: Too late to trap out?
« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2011, 05:53:50 am »
Well my trap seems to be working very well at the moment. The next door neighbour yelled out over the fence for me earlier. He said the cone was packed full of bees and they were pouring out but by the time I got there they seemed to have disbursed.

See the latest video:

Trap out - Day 2 Afternoon
« Last Edit: November 09, 2011, 11:49:26 pm by ShaneJ »
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Re: Too late to trap out?
« Reply #37 on: November 06, 2011, 12:12:51 pm »
Looking good! My guess is the queen is inside of the cone. Soon I would think she should exit, then most of the activity will be focused on your catch box.


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Re: Too late to trap out?
« Reply #38 on: November 06, 2011, 06:59:23 pm »
Thanks JP, I think you may have been right about the queen. I went and had a look this morning and there was no activity around the cone at all. All the bees were on the front of the box or on the landing board. And in the 10 minutes I stood there not one bee exited the cone.


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Re: Too late to trap out?
« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2011, 10:50:30 pm »
Ooooohhhhhhhh......

Safety goggles for a quick look?
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