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Offline hardwood

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SHB and trap out
« on: June 01, 2010, 04:04:23 pm »
Went to check on a trap out (2 1/2 weeks into it) and found that the SHB has taken over the tree.

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I'll be picking up the hive this evening to get it out of the war zone.
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Re: SHB and trap out
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2010, 06:20:51 pm »
I've wondered about how those two (trap out adn SHB) would mix.  I now know, it's as bad as I figured.  I'm glad it's a tree and not someones house.  You'd have a REAL problem at that point.  Did you at least get a new queen from your frame of eggs and the field bees from the collapsed hive?
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Re: SHB and trap out
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2010, 06:49:19 pm »
I'm doing three different trap outs of trees in this particular condo complex. The first, a very small colony, hung in there for a few days but only covered 1 1/2 frames and couldn't take care of a frame of brood. I scooped out what I could (the entry was quite large but the hole was shallow) and brought the bees and what brood they had to one of my yards and combined them with another hive. The second (I'll call medium sized with maybe 3-4 lbs of bees) I placed a frame of brood and eggs in on day 1 and ended up just putting a ripe grafted queen cell in on day 3. I opened the box on day 5 to find that all bees had absconded due to SHB larvae COVERING not only the frame of brood, but also the queen cell. The third (pictured with all of that rotten honey running down the tree) I placed a drawn frame in on day 2 and, after I was sure that there were enough bees in the hive, gave them a queen cell on day 3. It appears that they have a new mated queen with them now so I feel safe moving them tonight. I'm pretty sure there will be no more bees coming from this tree as the beetle infestation seems to be pretty bad.

This tree must have been full of honey. The cavity goes both below and above the entry. The slimy, stinky honey that is running down the tree must have first filled the cavity below the entry then ran 22' down the tree where it puddles on the ground. Would have been nice to let the bees rob that out!

Scott
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Re: SHB and trap out
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2010, 10:26:09 pm »
I just can't imagine how bad that tree must smell.  Use some foam or caulk and seal those maggots in there.
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Re: SHB and trap out
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2011, 03:40:55 am »
I am new and a novice.
What is SHB?

I am planning to trap-out of a tree (knot hole) with a screen funnel to a nuc. I  hope to make the new home nicer than the old with drawn combs,lemon grass oil, etc.
Any idea on my chances to get the queen? Little...I suspect.
Any other ideas on the process?
Thanks,
I enjoy reading all other posts.

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Re: SHB and trap out
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2011, 08:02:37 am »
Dam That looks nasty
I am doing a trap out started a week ago
I was sick so I didn't get back till day 3 to put in eggs brood
After seeing yours I'm Glad I waited
The SHB have ruined my Bee Tree so my go too tree sits empty
maybe it will come back

preston39 SHB= Small Hive Beetles

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Re: SHB and trap out
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2011, 09:23:37 am »
Preston, here is a bit of trapping info for you.

http://forum.beemaster.com/index.php/topic,20301.0.html
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Re: SHB and trap out
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2011, 11:29:27 am »
Quote from: iddee on April 28, 2011, 09:23:37 am
Preston, here is a bit of trapping info for you.

(since I am new. I had to remove the link...sorry)
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Wally,
Excellent...Excellent...Excellent...many thanks.

This tree is near a home. Lady is scared. When I start the trap-out can we expect the bees to be wildly around the house 100' away?..and for how many days before they calm down?
Will the plastic drawn cone be ok or should I find some old natural cone to ad to the new home? Which would be best?

Again ,many thanks.


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Re: SHB and trap out
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2011, 11:32:17 am »
They will be UN-wildly around the trap for about 3 feet. They will settle down in about 10 minutes.
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Re: SHB and trap out
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2011, 11:34:02 am »
There has never been a piece of plastic in any of my hives, so I can't answer that question.
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Re: SHB and trap out
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2011, 07:57:03 pm »
As long as all the plastic is wax coated and drawn out, should be ok.
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Re: SHB and trap out
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2011, 01:26:53 am »
After I saw the picture and before reading the replies, I was wondering what the heck that black liquid was running down the tree. That's some nasty honey!
That's a good picture to show people who want to spray the bees when they are inside their home. End result, you can get this and much more!  :-D
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Re: SHB and trap out
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2011, 09:01:50 pm »
SHB = the worst thing ever for bees.

I have switched from hardware cloth to window screen on my bottom boards because SHB go right thru 1/8" hardware cloth.
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Re: SHB and trap out
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2011, 07:16:47 pm »
Quote from: beetalkin on May 01, 2011, 09:01:50 pm
SHB = the worst thing ever for bees.

I have switched from hardware cloth to window screen on my bottom boards because SHB go right thru 1/8" hardware cloth.
I have a tray with veggie oil under the SBB and it catches alot of the SHB's and the larva as it tries to get in the ground to mature.
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Re: SHB and trap out
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2011, 12:27:46 pm »
Scott,

Do you build your hive equipment? What type of cover is on the trap-out box? Is that handles on the narrow sides of the box?

Could you post pictures of your hives, I would like to get some construction ideas?

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Re: SHB and trap out
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2011, 05:40:41 pm »
Charles, I built all of my equipment until late last year when the mill I got my lumber from (up in Maine) shut it's doors. Now I build MOST of my stuff. The top in the photo is a plywood migratory top made from form plywood. The handles you're looking at are just simple 1x2 cleats. I like the cleats because they have a slightly larger hand hold and it's easier on the fingertips if the box is full of honey. They are harder to stack on pallets though.

Scott
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Re: SHB and trap out
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2011, 01:55:16 am »
Scott, thank you for the information! I like the cleats.

Charles
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