Beemaster's International Beekeeping Forum
BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => DISEASE & PEST CONTROL => Topic started by: JD on July 02, 2009, 11:25:21 pm
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Does anyone know how to make or where to buy one. JD
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try a search. i think it's been talked about before.
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JD...
May be this will help
http://www.members.shaw.ca/orioleln/index.htm
BEE HAPPY Jim134 :)
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Here's another
http://www.bwrangler.com/loxa.htm
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I have the Heilyser Vaporizer and really like it
http://www.members.shaw.ca/orioleln/Vaporizer.htm
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I use one. Fast, efficient, no mites, I don't have time to wait around for the bees to live in harmony with mites. Cindi
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cindi, which one do you use?
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I have remade mine (heated with a propane torch, using mapp gas). It is attached to the bottom of a plywood sheet to slide in from the rear of my bottom board. A 90 to go up through the plywood on the end of the tubing. I use SBB's. I was having to block off the SBB's anyway, remove entrance reducers, then shove it in from the front, all entrances were not exactly the same width, PO'd bees would escape, buzz me, get burnt and then a 1/2 a hive of bees come at me when I pulled it out. Now I can just stuff a rag in the entrance. Still PO'd, but I don't have to beat bees off the tubing to go to the next hive.
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cindi, which one do you use?
Kathy, the one is from the same company as this:
http://www.members.shaw.ca/orioleln/Vaporizer.htm
I use the JB200 model. Ken made some long lines which I can attach to the battery from about 20 feet away, a small car battery I can pack around. I can do 10 colonies in about 45 minutes, fast, efficient. I have become faster at this, the more I have done it. Tried and true, no mites....have that wonderful day, to love and live, health. Cindi
Direct from the manufacturer. Any vapours in the hive will not affect honey in any way. There is more formic acid (formic and oxalic pretty much the same) found in honey naturally than any fumes that would get in it. I don't apply during honey flow anyways, but it has been imparted to me that it can be done, if the mites are high enough to warrant it. I always do a sticky board test before any vapourizing anyways. Period.
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cindi, in your post a few years ago, you were going to buy the propane heated vaporizer? if that is correct, and you changed your mind, what made you chose the battery heated vaporizer? i debate. i don't treat much, but apiguard is expensive, and with my short season, i'd like to find something that does not take 4 weeks and warm weather!
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Kathy
This is the same vaporizer I bought and talked to cindi alot before i made up my mind. The reason that i like the 12 volt model is it gets me away from the hive while it is working. The propane has to be right under your nose while heating. Just as cindi has done I also have 20 ft of lamp cord with battery clamps coiled aroung a small pc of wood. I plug the enterances with carpet pad strips after slipping the 4 grams loaded burner in. For a battery I use the small motorcycle 12 volt. I carry all this in a small cooler along with a roll of duct tape for sealing cracks and upper enterences. After using mine this weekend, Im adding one more thing to my cooler and that will be somekind of clock or stop watch that I can read without reading glasses. The cost per colony is pennies and it works
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The reason that i like the 12 volt model is it gets me away from the hive while it is working
great point. thanks. i could run it off the tractor battery and not have to carry one up with me.
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Kathy, ditto to what Dan said, smiling, have that wonderful day, love our life, health. Cindi
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Dan and Cindi, you are using 4 grams. I assume that is based upon 2 grams per box is this correct? Also I am assuming you do 3 treatment 1 week apart each is this also correct?
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The dose is 2 grams per deep box. The acid doesn't penetrate cells so in a brood rearing time 3 are needed at 5 - 7 day intervals. It can be done during broodless times so only one is needed. The nice thing about this treatment is it can be done anytime the temp is above 40deg. It also doesn't kill brood as a oxalic drip does.
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Thanks Danno. I know I have you several questions and I appreciate the help. I will probably do my first hive Friday so I am "double checking" some of the info I have received.
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The best time is when everyone is home, morning, evening or bad weather but they can be alittle testy at that time so I give them alttle smoke first
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Another question I have is let's say it takes 2 mins to vaporize the oxalic do you then leave the hive sealed for a period of time or do you just reopen and go?
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I seal the entrance with a strip of carpet pad. After the burn time I pull the foam back alittle and pull the burner out. I then reseal and leave it sealed for 10min. Make sure the pan is cooled down (some use a water soaked sponge) and start the next colony while waiting for the first to sit for the 10min. I can get 3 to 4 all going at once. I just write down the start times
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The best time is when everyone is home, morning, evening or bad weather but they can be alittle testy at that time so I give them alttle smoke first
Personally, I would not advise to smoke the bees, not sure why you would bother, but you must have your reasons, I see it as moot though.
I do mine in the morning when I know that everyone is home (this is totally dependent upon the warmth of the area though). Where I live, I can be assured that everyone is home and in their house all night long. They don't generally go out until at least 8:00 AM or a bit later, again temperature dependent.
I seal the entrance on the bottom firstly with some foam (an old mattress worked well) and then I seal the slot on the inner cover. No bees can get out to bother me. I place the pan that has the crystals in it into the colony by pulling a tiny bit of the foam away and then quickly close it back up. I vapourize the crystals. It takes to the count of 100, I pull out the basin, cool with water, place in crystals and then carry on to the next. That hive is left sealed for 10 minutes, no less. Good luck, you will kill mites by the hundreds, if they are present within the colony, fast, efficient. Mite free. Have a beautiful and most wonderful day, love our life, health. Cindi
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Cindi
Last spring treatment the bee's were very calm but the last couple of times they weren't quite as happy with me. I went out with just a veil and was instantly head butted and ended up suiting up with gloves to finish.
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Again guys(and gals) lol thank you for the confirmation of how to do this properly.
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Got my JB200 last week. Got my Oxalic Acid from the local paint store. Can't wait to try it in the fall. Thanks for your help. JD