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Title: Monitoring of winter bee cluster via Internet
Post by: Boris on November 02, 2006, 09:40:14 am
For the first time in beekeeping and bee observation, the setup you see on my web site makes it possible to monitor a bee cluster position in real time via the Internet throughout the winter.
Please click on the link below. Boris
http://www.beebehavior.com/live_camera_winter.php
Title: Re: Monitoring of winter bee cluster via Internet
Post by: latebee on November 02, 2006, 06:54:35 pm
 Thanks Boris-nice job! I did notice that your hives are being wintered with what appears to be 4 or 5 supers on,or am I mistaken? Will have to check in on your web site again.
Title: Re: Monitoring of winter bee cluster via Internet
Post by: pdmattox on November 02, 2006, 10:31:59 pm
Very cool idea. thanks for the pics.
Title: Re: Monitoring of winter bee cluster via Internet
Post by: TwT on November 03, 2006, 12:13:16 am
very nic pic's, I like the infer-red.....
Title: Re: Monitoring of winter bee cluster via Internet
Post by: Ymbe on November 03, 2006, 08:25:57 am
Hi Boris, this is a great idea.

What's the likely minimum external temperature going to be where you are?

The full article Boris referenced, including the infra red pictures and more findings, is located here

http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/content/full/206/2/353?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=infrared&searchid=1139251218748_2955&FIRSTINDEX=0&resourcetype=3&journalcode=jexbio
 (http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/content/full/206/2/353?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=infrared&searchid=1139251218748_2955&FIRSTINDEX=0&resourcetype=3&journalcode=jexbio)

It is well worth a read.
Title: Re: Monitoring of winter bee cluster via Internet
Post by: Boris on November 03, 2006, 03:51:25 pm
Hi Boris, this is a great idea.

What's the likely minimum external temperature going to be where you are?

-25C ,  click here to see more http://www.beebehavior.com/bee_max_hives_pictures.php
 Boris

Title: Re: Monitoring of winter bee cluster via Internet
Post by: Rich V on November 03, 2006, 04:50:42 pm
What's way cool. Great job.

Rich V
Title: Re: Monitoring of winter bee cluster via Internet
Post by: Robo on November 03, 2006, 04:52:31 pm
Hey Boris,

Where abouts are you located?  I'm in Olivebridge (right by the Ashohan Reservoir)

I did a similar experiment one year on a nuc in my basement, except I used a string of Dallas 1-wire sensors hooked to my serial port, recorded the temperature every 5 minutes and graphed it. I have been going to do it on a full hive outside, but it seems that I'm always in a rush in the fall and never get it set up in time.
(http://www.bushkillfarms.com/gallery2/d/1885-1/hive_a.png)

Good luck with your endeavor. 


edit - I missed the infra-red the first time,  neat :shock:
Title: Re: Monitoring of winter bee cluster via Internet
Post by: Boris on November 04, 2006, 07:13:32 pm
Hey Boris,

Where abouts are you located?  I'm in Olivebridge (right by the Ashohan Reservoir)

I did a similar experiment one year on a nuc in my basement, except I used a string of Dallas 1-wire sensors hooked to my serial port, recorded the temperature every 5 minutes and graphed it. I have been going to do it on a full hive outside, but it seems that I'm always in a rush in the fall and never get it set up in time.
(http://robo.hydroville.com/albums/Basement-Nukes/hive_a.png)

Good luck with your endeavor. 


edit - I missed the infra-red the first time,  neat :shock:

My bee hives location is Grahamsville, NY near the Rondout Reservoir.  Boris
Title: Re: Monitoring of winter bee cluster via Internet
Post by: 2-Wheeler on November 04, 2006, 08:38:37 pm
Great website Boris! There is lots of useful stuff. I'll come back and check again from time to time.
Title: Re: Monitoring of winter bee cluster via Internet
Post by: Boris on November 05, 2006, 11:22:51 am
"I did a similar experiment one year on a nuc in my basement, except I used a string of Dallas 1-wire sensors hooked to my serial port,.."

Robo, where did you buy Dallas 1-wire sensors?  I cannot find such sensors for the reasonable price. 
Boris
Title: Re: Monitoring of winter bee cluster via Internet
Post by: Robo on November 05, 2006, 12:54:50 pm
"I did a similar experiment one year on a nuc in my basement, except I used a string of Dallas 1-wire sensors hooked to my serial port,.."

Robo, where did you buy Dallas 1-wire sensors?  I cannot find such sensors for the reasonable price. 
Boris

Boris,

The cheapest I have found is directly from Maxim  (https://shop.maxim-ic.com/storefront/priceavailable.do?Partnumber=DS18S20&event=PartSearch&menuitem=PriceAndAvailability)for <$3 each.  They sometimes have a lead time to deliver, so anthoer place that has them at a higher cost but seems to have good references on the weather forum is Hobby Boards (http://www.hobby-boards.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=26), I have not personally bought anything from them though.   I use a program called digitemp (http://www.digitemp.com/) to monitor and record the readings.  I have it tied into my home automation server, but it can easily be run from cron.