vmartin,i left the old queen with the swarm and made 2 nucs with the virgin queens. g3 ,when i put them in the box the bees went to the old queen and left the virgins alone.i videoed with my iphone and i guess it just looked up side down :-D jp don,t say much now about me finding all those queens,just saying :evil: allen ,the fat girl went with the swarm and the other 2 went in nucs. jp your right i can,t see **** without them.maybe you need to put yours on so you can see them too. :-D bud he video the queen after he find her with his glasses.he just don,t like people seeing him with them on.he say it makes him look old :lau: bud he's in denial..... jmblakeney and dave ,the marching is the best part. don, 75 bucks and 10 shakes and they are yours :-D. ........schawee