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Are you interested in trap outs?

Yes, but only for the info
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Yes, I would like to do them
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I don't think they can be done
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Offline iddee

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Trap Outs
« on: February 24, 2009, 06:41:38 pm »
After a recent thread went from removal to trap outs, I learned some have tried them with limited success. I decided to take a poll and see if anybody wanted to hear my success stories and how they came about. In other words, do you want to know how to successfully do a trap out?

As with removals, the rules are varied, and must be adapted to the individual situation, but some basic rules do apply.
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Re: Trap Outs
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2009, 06:44:10 pm »
I answered yes but only for the info. Because I actually do them on occasion.

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Re: Trap Outs
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2009, 06:45:41 pm »
i want to learn.  i do my removals for free, so don't know if i want to get into the work of a trap out, but one never knows......   :-D
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Re: Trap Outs
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2009, 06:49:15 pm »
I understand the basic concepts but am unfamiliar with the fine details which to me draws the line between a successful and non successful trap out.

I am eagerly awaiting your posts. One question though, got any short cuts to the learning curve?? :-D


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Re: Trap Outs
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2009, 07:10:44 pm »
>>>>I am eagerly awaiting your posts. One question though, got any short cuts to the learning curve?? grin<<<<

With my pea brain, even shortcuts take a long time.
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Re: Trap Outs
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2009, 07:18:16 pm »
Like I said in an earlier post there are two chimneys that I know of right now that trap outs would be the ticket on.

I am very excited about this thread, thanks for starting it Iddee.


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Re: Trap Outs
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2009, 07:36:05 pm »
JP, If the interest is there, I will start another thread and maybe admin can make it a sticky. This one is just to see if it will be worthwhile.
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Re: Trap Outs
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2009, 09:07:19 pm »
I've done a fair amount of them,  but am always interested in hearing other's approach,  especially when it comes from someone like yourself with plenty of experience to back it up.
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Re: Trap Outs
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2009, 10:09:43 pm »
I tried one for two weeks.  Finally got permission to cut the house open.  There were five times as many bees inside as out in my box--after 2 weeks.  And before you ask, "no, there were no other entrances into he house."  I would like to think it works but the time it takes and the stress on bees outside is pretty high, I would think.
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Re: Trap Outs
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2009, 11:04:08 pm »
I'm always interested in hearing about how other people do stuff, even if I think that trap outs are a big old pain in the kiester and not worth the time and effort unless you are getting paid big bucks to do them!  :-D
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Re: Trap Outs
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2009, 11:39:56 pm »
I tried one for two weeks.  Finally got permission to cut the house open.  There were five times as many bees inside as out in my box--after 2 weeks.  And before you ask, "no, there were no other entrances into he house."  I would like to think it works but the time it takes and the stress on bees outside is pretty high, I would think.

The ones of read about(I've never actually done one) indicated it would take several weeks maybe even a couple months for some types.  I read of one which used a queenright nuc near the one way entrance.  Similar to swapping locations, the returning foragers give up and enter the nuc(or hive depending on how large the trapped hive is), that sounds pretty low stress.
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Re: Trap Outs
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2009, 11:44:53 pm »
Iddee,

Thank you for starting this thread.  Trap outs sound like something I should know how to do but I've yet to meet someone who has actually done one.  Look forward to learning how this should be done.

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Re: Trap Outs
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2009, 03:58:15 pm »
I too am interested. Cutouts are brutal, this sounds physically easier, so teach on dude....
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Re: Trap Outs
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2009, 06:05:30 pm »
I've had several situations where a TrapOut would have been nice to do, but the people who called are always in a hurry to get rid of the bees and would not wait for the time needed to do a TrapOut. The only option in those cases were for me to refer them to others who do CutOuts, as I don't do CutOuts myself. But I don't dispare, someone someday will let me try a TrapOut I'm sure.  :-D

I've read some of your posts concerning trapouts in other forums and look forward to reading them here as well. You are one of those very helpful people for us needing information and help with our beekeeping adventures.

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Re: Trap Outs
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2009, 12:26:24 pm »
Iddee, I would certainly encourage you to show how to do these maneuvers, there would be many people that could benefit from this, go, go, go!!!  Have a great and most wonderful day, Cindi
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Re: Trap Outs
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2009, 01:22:06 pm »
I have done trap-outs in the past and don't really like to do them.  But I am always willing to learn new, better ways of doing things.  And to have someone as knowledgeable as you willing to teach, that would be great.  So please, Iddee, let the learning begin.
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