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Re: trapouts
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2012, 06:59:57 pm »
Maybe a can of raid from the home owner or their neighbor.
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Re: trapouts
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2012, 09:15:41 pm »
Iddee I am going to try second round at trapout now that I have my own eggs brood same bees in wall first trapout was going great and then all bees in box were dead. I have 4 hives with 3 pound packages and doing great but there is more bees going in 1 1/2 inch hole in  wall than my 4 hives combined does this mean more bees or just more foragers any other tips for trapout.                                    thanks much

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Re: trapouts
« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2012, 10:59:38 pm »
I wish you luck. Hopefully, they won't be poisoned this time. Keep us posted.
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Re: trapouts
« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2012, 11:16:19 pm »
is there this many bees in wall or just foragers

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Re: trapouts
« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2012, 08:11:08 pm »
Iddee anybody can you tell me how soon I should check trapout hivebox to see if it needs to be changed out there is more activity going in and out than my package hives and I just started trapout 26 hours ago. Would it fill that quick still 5 to 10 bees a minute coming out end of cone. HELP!!!!! ADVICE PLEASE          THANKS

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Re: trapouts
« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2012, 09:23:01 pm »
I always check them after the first day.Almost all of the foragers from the colony get trapped that first day. Day by day that # dwindles.

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Re: trapouts
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2012, 09:45:33 pm »
Every trap is different, so the time varies too much to make a guess. BUT, you can lift the lid and look 3 times a day if needed. When there are 7 or more frames covered with bees when I look down from the top in a 10 frame box, I change it out. I do not start a trap with a nuc. If I did, I would probably remove it when 4 frames are covered.
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Re: trapouts
« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2012, 11:47:01 pm »
 i checked at 27 hours and 5 to 6 frames  full still lots of bees coming out of cone . 30 to 50 outside entrance fanning first time I ever saw this it was great .  I put stick from base of trapout to hive and instantly bees used it as bridge to hive I will probably have to change hive tomorrow how does this work screen off entrance and when do I move and can I open up hive right away  only moving 300 yards . Still lots of bees coming out 5 to 10 a minute hour before dark so maybe lots more  I hope. thanks can you tell Im new at this

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Re: trapouts
« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2012, 11:53:22 pm »
I would move it a few miles away for a week, then bring it home. Change it early morning with eggs in the new box, or at night and place eggs in the new box the next morning. You want a full day for enough bees to come out to keep the brood warm the first night.
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Re: trapouts
« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2012, 11:59:42 pm »
thanks iddee can i let them out right away when i move few miles and can i move before queencell is started and how soon should queencell be started  whats the normal and most you got out of one trapout

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Re: trapouts
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2012, 08:10:05 am »
You can safely move it for the first 5 days, That is before the queen cell caps. Release them when they are on location. Queen cells should be capped on the 6th day after setting trap. I have gotten as little as 2 frames of bees, and as many as 4 hives and a nuc. 
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Re: trapouts
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2012, 09:33:19 am »
so far trapout looks like it is a success a few  crabby bees but not to bad real nice queen cell and all looks well  i hope it stays that way second hive in place and catching bees  thanks everybody

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Re: trapouts
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2012, 07:02:01 pm »
Good to hear. Keep us updated.
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Re: trapouts
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2012, 08:47:24 pm »
12 hours with new box in place guessing 2 pounds of bees and still coming out  of cone about 5 a minute I think there is a lot more in wall than  I guessed that is good but now I have to get more hives thanks a will keep you posted

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Re: trapouts
« Reply #34 on: May 22, 2012, 01:08:03 pm »
I have 2 hives full that I move from trapout and put another empty there but now Im running a little low on brood and eggs I dont want to weaken my hives so could I put a caged queen in box with some drawn comb they are already going in with pollen.so I think they would stay with a queen any thoughts if that dont work I will get frame from one of my stronger hives but would rather not weaken them if this would be a way to go would queen start laying faster than them making a queen    thanks

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Re: trapouts
« Reply #35 on: May 22, 2012, 06:12:26 pm »
It will work. Leave the queen caged for 3 or 4 days. If the hive doesn't have to be totally moved, you can also back off and let them regroup. Trap another 2 or 3 boxes later.
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Re: trapouts
« Reply #36 on: May 27, 2012, 07:32:24 pm »
Im doing my second trapout I started with caged queen and bees went right in and right back in  even after I had to put it back together after bear problems. my question is I have a small swarm maybe 1000 bees and queen  that was given to me can I use this as a trapout hive when I take full box away and switch with small swarm I have in hive or will they fight . I think it would really boost that hive . thanks much

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Re: trapouts
« Reply #37 on: May 27, 2012, 08:26:42 pm »
I used a 1 frame and queen nuc on a trap. Took away a 5 frame nuc with queen a few days later. It worked perfectly.
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Re: trapouts
« Reply #38 on: May 27, 2012, 09:03:37 pm »
thanks Iddee I just thought it would be a good way to boost that hive and save some brood eggs and not weaken another hive Ill keep you up to date thanks again

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Re: trapouts
« Reply #39 on: May 28, 2012, 12:48:20 pm »
went to check trapout this morning and bear wasnt back and radio was still playing but the cone was full of bees   I looked and end of cone was plugged with 2 or 3 dead bees tapped with stick dead bees fell out and live bees filed out I think bear may have killed a few extra bees . bees are all over queen cage and bringing in lots of pollen .hopefully bear stays away.