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Title: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on October 30, 2011, 12:32:33 am
Probably as good of a time as any to start a thread on Big 10 football.

The former “mighty” Bucks had a heck of game against Wisconsin tonight.  A 4th quarter thriller down to the very last play.  The Buckeyes somehow pulled off the upset.  Wisconsin must be thinking the Bee Gods are against them after losing 2 straight games on Hail Mary passes.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: JP on October 30, 2011, 03:26:57 am
I didn't watch that game but did watch the Stanford/USC game. 3 overtimes! What a game! Stanford wins! BTW, the Tennessee/ South Carolina game was about as boring as it gets!


...JP
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on October 30, 2011, 11:11:29 am
Saw the highlights of that game JP, looked like an incredible game.

I wonder if the close game will affect rankings of Stanford.

Poor Wisconsin, they now have two losses and I would assume they will drop out of the top 20, maybe top 25 after this week.  Ironic since they are probably the best team in the big 10 this year.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: bulldog on October 31, 2011, 03:25:58 pm
unfortunately i spent my saturday in the dark because of all the trees falling down on power lines all over the place. all of north jersey was a nightmare. roads closed, power out, etc.

 i got to hear Rutgers vs WVU on the radio. not exactly my first choice. but at least Penn State won again. how they continue to win with no offense is a mystery to me but i'll take it. if they can somehow manage to beat nebraska this week, then ohio state and wisconsin they would  play in the first ever big ten championship game, after that they may be rosebowl bound. but i won't hold my breath.

as for Stanford, i think they'll be playing for the national championship against Alabama ( sorry, JP ) of course that is just my prediction, what do i know ? i can't wait to see Alabama vs LSU this sat.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on October 31, 2011, 05:18:57 pm
I watched the tail end of the Penn State game.  I couldn’t believe how poorly they looked compared to recent years.  Don’t know if it was the weather or what.  I’m no Buckeye fan, but I was surprised how well they are playing now; Nebraska too.  Penn State is going to have a very tough road ahead of them. 

Is Joe Pa just a figure head at this point, or do you think he’s really involved in the games?

Don’t have a feel for who is going to win the LSU vs Bama game, but I’ll go out on a limb and predict it won’t be close.  I think one or the other will run away with the score.  With Les Miles, nothing is predictable.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: bulldog on November 01, 2011, 12:08:53 am
i can't speak with any authority about joe pa being or not being only a figurehead, but i'm assuming he is still the boss. he is coaching from the stands because his leg was broken by someone being tackled colliding with him. this is the second time something like this has happened to him in the last few years.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: hankdog1 on November 03, 2011, 10:23:26 pm
You guys think it's hard to pick who is gonna win.  You should try your hand at picking on the spread.  Won some good money in a work pool doing that over the season. 
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on November 03, 2011, 11:26:00 pm
OK, Hankdog, it’s time to put your money where your mouth is  :-D :-D :-D

Who’s going to win the big LSU vs Bama game and what’s the spread going to be ?
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: JP on November 04, 2011, 04:51:33 am
Could be dead wrong, probably so but 27-17 is in my head. GEAUX TIGERS!


...JP

Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: bulldog on November 04, 2011, 11:27:42 am
i was thinking more along the lines of 23-17 alabama  :-D
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: hankdog1 on November 07, 2011, 02:12:00 am
Well you guys caught me with a busy week.  Wasn't able to take a look at the lines.  LSU I can safely say earned their win.

Anybody heard anything about the sex abuse scandle that is rocking Penn State? 
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on November 07, 2011, 05:35:51 am
Just what I read in the news.  Very sad this kind of thing can be swept under the rug by the people in power.  Have to respect these are “allegations” at this point, but the AD had a responsibility and he dropped the ball.  Heads should roll.

Don’t know enough about Joe Pa at this point to make a call.  News reports were claiming he took the allegations to the AD, but then what?  Business as usual?  I hope what eventually comes out about Joe Pa will prove his integrity and legend status.  Time will tell.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: hankdog1 on November 07, 2011, 01:20:50 pm
Bluebee I don't expect to see Joe Pa come out of this with any tarnish to him.  Over the years of watching him I get the feeling he is a straight forward truthfull guy.  It would truely be shocking to find out anything different for sure.  Honestly though Joe Pa probably did what he could in the situation he did manage to push the guy accused out of his organization.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on November 08, 2011, 01:12:13 am
“The Pennsylvania state police commissioner said Paterno fulfilled his legal requirement when he relayed to university administrators that a graduate assistant had seen Sandusky attacking a young boy in the team’s locker room shower in 2002. But the commissioner also questioned whether Paterno had a moral responsibility to do more.”   http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-pennstate-abuse (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-pennstate-abuse)

How can Joe Pa just act like its somebody else’s problem when some young boy is attacked in HIS locker room?   What if it were his kid, or your kid, it really shouldn’t make a difference.  You don’t just stand around and do nothing.  If Joe Pa knew a young boy was being “attacked” and did nothing but talk, then he should be fired tomorrow IMO.  However we still don’t have all the data yet.

I don't think Joe Pa survives this.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: hankdog1 on November 09, 2011, 02:48:35 pm
Bluebee if you don't actually witness it then you don't know if it happened or not.  Remember people do lie from time to time to distory people they don't care for.  Joe Pa did what he had to and now he is being used as a scape goat because others dropped the ball.  Not saying I would have handled it the same way but Joe Pa would have probably been gotten rid of at the time for doing more.  It's one of those situations where your danged if you do and danged if you don't.  University politics can be worse then government politics when it comes to pointing fingers and mud slinging. 
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: Sundog on November 09, 2011, 06:49:42 pm
Very disappointed with JP!  This was a “great moral crisis” and he should have done more than the required (absolute) minimum.  Shame on all involved.

Not fun!
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: JP on November 10, 2011, 01:23:22 am
After 61 years at Penn State, Joe is gone. What a sad way to end such a wonderful career. I understand they had to clean house but such a shame to see him go out like this.


...JP
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: bulldog on November 10, 2011, 10:03:04 pm
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Not saying I would have handled it the same way but Joe Pa would have probably been gotten rid of at the time for doing more.  It's one of those situations where your danged if you do and danged if you don't.

i agree with hankdog on this one.

what a shame.
not trying to make excuses for joe pa, but it seems to me that if he and a few others who knew about it all got fired, why isn't everyone who knew getting fired ? i guarantee the same people  who fired him knew about it before he got win # 409, why did they keep quiet until then ? why didn't they fire him immediately ? covering it up for even one day makes them just as guilty as people who covered it up for 5 years.

Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: JP on November 11, 2011, 01:35:19 am
IMO more than anyone, Mike McQueary has got to go, immediately. For God sake he was the one who witnessed the event which was reported to Paterno. Why are they keeping him around?


...JP
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: VolunteerK9 on November 11, 2011, 09:16:13 am
Just pray for all the victims-and there will be plenty more come out of the woodwork I fear. Irregardless of what happens to Joe Pa, the victims will have to live with what happened to them for the rest of their lives.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: JP on November 11, 2011, 09:52:28 am
How can someone who witnessed child abuse not call the police? This I just don't get.


...JP
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: bulldog on November 11, 2011, 11:22:13 am
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How can someone who witnessed child abuse not call the police? This I just don't get.

to me that is equally disturbing. if it were me he'd be getting the snot beat out of him until the cops showed up to save him.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: VolunteerK9 on November 11, 2011, 11:41:39 am
How can someone who witnessed child abuse not call the police? This I just don't get.


...JP

In my opinion, he is on the same level as the person who committed the act.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: VolunteerK9 on November 12, 2011, 05:19:34 pm
removed by me
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on November 20, 2011, 03:07:23 am
You guys think it's hard to pick who is gonna win.  You should try your hand at picking on the spread.  Won some good money in a work pool doing that over the season. 
Hankdog, how did you do picking the winners this week! 

What a lot of BCS upsets.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: Sundog on November 20, 2011, 12:57:54 pm
"Hurrah for the Yellow and Blue!"  Good game!
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on November 20, 2011, 11:45:06 pm
I had to laugh at the “Yahoo Users Rankings” for college football tonight. http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/polls (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/polls)

As of tonight, they have the teams ranked like this:
1. Michigan State!
2. LSU
3. Arkansas
4. Alabama
5. Wisconsin.

LOL, the MSU Spartan’s #1?  What a joke.  There’s no team with a longer history of fumbling and bumbling away games than the Spartans.  Maybe it was that article about Victoria Secret’s new Michigan State jersey that pushed them ahead in the polls?  
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Victoria-Secret-shirt-fails-Michigan-State-8217?urn=ncaaf-wp10226 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Victoria-Secret-shirt-fails-Michigan-State-8217?urn=ncaaf-wp10226)

The Green and White Michigan State jersey that says “Hail to the victors” under “Spartans”.  LOL.  

Either they have complete idiots working at VS or they are marketing geniuses; I don’t know which.  They sure got plenty of free marketing for not knowing up from down when it comes to their product.  Hail to the Victors has to be one of the most recognized fight songs in college athletics.  Anybody not living on the Moon knows that is the fight song for the Maize and Blue Michigan Wolverines.  

The Green and White Spartans over in East Lansing have some lame fight song about "on the banks of the red ceder...blah...blah...blah".
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: Sundog on November 21, 2011, 06:46:58 pm
Well, they got the "S" and the "U" parts right.  :lau:

It was great watching the Cornhuskers go down, after the BS "tie" in '97.

Welcome to the B1G!
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on November 21, 2011, 07:53:49 pm
Yeah, if Nebraska thought the Big 10 was going to be cake walk, they got a wake up call.  The Big 10 gets beat up a lot in the press as inferior, but if you have to play in the league it’s a tough road.  The only team you can take for granted is the Golden Gophers! 

The “spread” system used so effectively in other conferences (Florida, Oregon) gets demolished when it has to deal with big boys at the line of scrimmage.   I know we had high hopes for Rich Rods spread when he was hired as coach.  He did give us some exciting high scoring games, but in the end, his spread got thoroughly crushed in Big 10 play.

It’s a mystery to me why the Big 10 teams always collapse in the bowl games.  I’m going to go with the warm weather as being a significant factor and maybe over confidence.  Who knows.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: bulldog on November 21, 2011, 10:03:07 pm
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It’s a mystery to me why the Big 10 teams always collapse in the bowl games

always ? i believe you are quite mistaken about that. it happens sometimes just like in any other conference. usually it is because they match up the #5 big ten team against the #2 sec  or some similar mismatch and it turns into a blowout.

 i believe they do that just to make the sec look good. a few years ago they were talking about how tough the sec was because they all had one loss, but if everyone in the big ten has 1 or even 2 losses ( which is just about every year ) its because none of them are any good.   :roll:

also they used to keep score of bowl victories by conference each year, until the big east went 5-0, then it became non-existent, it only gets mentioned when the sec has the best record conference-wise.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: Sundog on November 21, 2011, 10:52:10 pm
Hoke and Mattison appear to have righted harvest wain.  Another year or two and the RR years will fade into history like a bad hangover.  Everybody gets beat, but not like the debacle against (the other) MSU last year.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on November 23, 2011, 05:50:06 pm
The latest media speculation is Urban Meyer to OSU?  Do you think it will happen?  Would it be successful?

I don’t get it?  If he walked away from Florida twice to “spend more time with his family and health concerns”, why would he get back into coaching a 3rd time?  If he wanted to go back, why go to the Buckeyes?  Seems to me if he really wanted to be back as coach he would have stayed with the program he built at Florida.  Who wants to move from Gainesville to Columbus?

Would he even be a good fit at OSU?  Rich Rod pretty much proved that spread based systems get crushed in Big 10 play.  I think it’s a bad move any way you slice it; except for the $$$$. 
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: hankdog1 on November 24, 2011, 01:37:32 pm
No I sure didn't look at any of the games other then watching the Hokies play tuesday nite.  Got to see them move up to 5th in the BCS standings too hot dog.  I started to do research for you guys and post my pics one week and just didn't have the time to fool with it.  Guess if there really isn't money ridding it kinda gets put on the back burner.  As for Urban Meyer at OSU don't see that happening unless of course the deal it just too good not to.  Seen many coaches take jobs at schools schools where they knew they weren't gonna last Notre Dame not to mention any names just for the cash.  Don't see it happening but several million being waved under your nose can make it really hard to walk away from.  Butch Davis would be a better fit for OSU I think.  Worked wonders at Miami and UNC. 
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on November 27, 2011, 01:01:31 am
Thank the good Lord that the Wolverines FINALLY beat those dang Buckeyes after 7 agonizing long years.  Jim Tressel had our number.  Maybe we can start a new winning streak against Urban Meyer :-D

So it’s MSU vs Wisconsin in the first Big 10 title game.  That should be a great re-match.  For those that don’t recall, MSU beat Wisconsin at the buzzer on a Hail Mary play in East Lansing in the regular season.  It was a very evenly matched game despite everyone’s assumption that the Badgers would blow out the Spartans.  No question these two teams are the best in the Big 10 right now.  

I’m going to give the edge to the Badgers in the re-match.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: Sundog on November 27, 2011, 12:24:27 pm
The Spartans seemed to be on the receiving end of many "hometown" calls against Michigan and Wisconsin.  Shades of the phantom Charles White USC touchdown against Wisconsin and a very chippy game against the Wolverines.  Anybody who blatantly punches or kicks needs to be ejected.

Kudos to Brady Hoke for showing what (mostly the same) kids can do with some decent coaching, not to mention demonstrating the contrast to how pathetic RR was (still is, no doubt).  Somebody loses every game, the difference being if you get beat by a better team, or just plain suck.  I grew up in Ann Arbor, played Sunday morning pick-up games at the Big House, bleed maize and blue, and yet I turned last years bowl game off after the first quarter because it was too ugly to watch.  A first for me.

Kudos to Mattison too.  Second half adjustments were obiously lacking the last three years and obviously present this year.  Special teams too!  Gibbons had a solid year kicking, and I like Gallon a lot.  Could be faster, but good hands and head.

As Hoke stated in the post game interview when asked about the ten wins, "it's all about the kids".  I think he "gets it", and I feel bad for the kids at AZ.

I'd like to see the Badgers win too.

M-Go Blue!

Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on November 28, 2011, 12:33:06 am
Sundog I hear you about last year’s Bowl game; it was sickening.  I had to turn the TV off too.  Everybody here including the Michigan AD thought Rich Rod FINALLY had a team that could at least compete by last year’s bowl game.  A team that was moving forward.  That blowout removed any question about keeping RR for another year.  It is truly amazing how Hoke and Mattison turned the program around so quickly.  Hoke seems like a truly nice guy, very much like Lloyd Carr.  Calm and collected.  RR definitely had a temper which wasn’t very appealing.

Spartan’s can play really good ball when senior QB Cousins is having a good day.  When Cousins is not having a good day, they look more like the bumbling Spartans of old. 
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: indypartridge on November 28, 2011, 09:53:05 am
...  Shades of the phantom Charles White USC touchdown against Wisconsin ...
Being the UM fan you are, I'm sure this was just a momentary brain cramp. The phantom TD was against Michigan in the '79 Rose Bowl.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: Sundog on November 28, 2011, 10:40:16 pm
Gotta read the whole sentence to understand the content...

The subject in the sentence is the MSU "phantom" touchdown in the Wiscy game. That being being the "shades of" the phanton CW touchdown.  But your memory (or Google skills) are good.  I don't remember the year, but I sure remember the play.

RR definitely had a temper which wasn't very appealing. 

Apparently he never realized the the camera would be on him either, or maybe he did.  I never understood how anybody could think of him and his behavior as a good fit at Meechigan.  So glad to be moving on!  Shame he can't take his pityful records with him.

Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on November 28, 2011, 11:27:29 pm
That seemed to be sore point between RR and the media around here.  He was never considered a “Michigan man”.  He sure had a temper for our ex QB Forcier who ended up down in Florida somewhere to play.  Miami?  I don’t recall.  

However in his local media interviews, RR certainly did have a good sense of humor.  I can remember a particularly comical exchange on TV when a reporter asked him why his kickers couldn’t get anything through the up rights last season.  He did come across as mean spirited on game day, but he was much different the rest of the week (at least on local TV).  

I’m REALLY glad we now have Hoke, but I also wish RR well in AZ.  
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on November 30, 2011, 03:46:02 pm
Well, its official, Urban Meyer is bringing the Tim Tebow show to Columbus!

How do you think he’ll do?  A top coach from the mighty SEC coming into the oft called weak Big 10 conference?  Should we expect the Bucks to easily win the Big 10 every year?

I think Meyer, being a native of Ohio, is a great fit, but I would rather have Tressel if I bleed Scarlet and Gray.  There is no way Meyer is going to dominate the Wolverines like Tressel did!
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: indypartridge on November 30, 2011, 04:54:07 pm
There is no way Meyer is going to dominate the Wolverines like Tressel did!
That may be a good thing. The rivalry wasn't fun when UM dominated OSU during the Cooper years, and while it was nice beating Michigan regularly under Tressel, the Game is far more fun and interesting when both teams are good. It's more fun beating Michigan when you're denying them a Rose Bowl berth than it is beating up on Wolverine team with a losing record.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: Sundog on November 30, 2011, 06:46:20 pm
Well, its official, Urban Meyer is bringing the Tim Tebow show to Columbus!

 Are we forgetting the last time TT and Urban ran into a Big 10 team?  The 2008 Capital One Bowl.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on November 30, 2011, 08:14:26 pm
Sundog, that glorious day had faded from my memory.  Thanks for bringing it back!

My memory was a little sharper on how ole’ Urban Meyer lobbied hard to keep Michigan out of the national championship game in 2006.  I doubt the Wolverines are going to forget that anytime soon!  There will be a little extra motivation for beating OSU with Meyer at the helm.

I wonder if he’ll implement another spread system even after seeing how stupendously Rich Rods spread failed in the Big 10? 
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: Sundog on November 30, 2011, 10:02:26 pm
I wonder if he’ll implement another spread system even after seeing how stupendously Rich Rods spread failed in the Big 10? 


And elsewhere.   Finally make it to  a lesser bowl, and then...   Even the Bump Eliot teams never got embarrassed like the Miss SU game last year.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: beee farmer on December 01, 2011, 01:30:12 am
Anyone else hear that Mizzu Tigers are moving to SEC next year? They better tighten up if its true.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on December 05, 2011, 10:22:40 pm
Heck of a start to the Big 10 Championship on Sat.  Great game between the Badgers and Spartans.  Back and forth right to the end, the way two evenly matched teams should play out.  I’m pretty sure the Badgers are going to be feasting on roasted Duck come New Years. 
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: Sundog on December 08, 2011, 06:36:54 pm
I’m pretty sure the Badgers are going to be feasting on roasted Duck come New Years. 

I too, would love to see it, but the Rose Bowl is always a difficult road trip for B1G teams.  The Badgers flopped last year against TCU, and the Ducks have a great deal of team speed, especially on offense.  I think Oregon will give Wisconsin trouble.  Let's hope for a well-played game.

Should be fun!
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on December 10, 2011, 04:51:52 pm
It sounds like Urban Meyer is bound and determined to implement a spread offense in Columbus.  Just hired a spread guy for his offensive coordinator:  http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-ohiost-qbscoach (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-ohiost-qbscoach)

Did he not watch any replays of Rich Rods Wolverines?
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: indypartridge on December 11, 2011, 10:27:43 am
Did he not watch any replays of Rich Rods Wolverines?
Rich managed to get the offense working at UM, but entirely forgot about a thing called "defense".
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: Sundog on December 11, 2011, 10:39:45 pm
Rich managed to get the offense working at UM, but entirely forgot about a thing called "defense".

I would respectfully differ.  All RR did was prove that a one dimensional team will never succeed.  He surprised the opposition in the beginning, due only to Denard’s abilities, but other teams quickly adjusted.  No defense, no kicking game, no special teams, and no coaching adjustments.  In short, terrible coaching.
 
Coaches at that level are also Professors and Mentors.  All he ever taught was whining and blaming others.  He is all about me, me, me, as his crying diatribes demonstrated.  The kids on the team deserved much better, as do the kids in AZ.  Brandon and Coleman sure messed-up on that hiring!  Only cost four million or so and the worst seasons and records in Michigan history.  Now he is shooting his mouth of bragging that HE would have won more than ten games. 

The man has no ability, character, integrity, or dignity, and yet he is paid millions.  Not sure what that says about the society we live in.  I need to speak with Kim Kardashian.

"I believe in moderation, as long as there is a lot of it!" - Tim Allen
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: indypartridge on December 13, 2011, 07:57:04 am
I would respectfully differ.  All RR did was prove ...
I wasn't trying to defend RR and his coaching abiltity as much as reply to BlueBee's comment on whether a spread offense would work in the BigTen. A spread offense will work, but as you pointed out, it needs to be accompanied by a complete team.

Case in point, when Joe Tiller arrived at Purdue, they had only had 2 winning seasons in the last 20, but he took them to 10 bowls in 12 years with a spread offense. No, Purdue didn't reach the "elite" status of regular conference championships and BCS bowls, but they went from being a bottom feeder to a consistent winner. Given the talent available at Ohio State, I don't doubt that the spread offense could work very effectively.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on January 04, 2012, 01:23:30 am
Don’t know about the rest of you, but the Michigan win over Virginia Tech in the Sugar Bowl was the most undeserved Michigan win I have ever seen.  VT clearly was the better team and should have won that game by about 50 to nothing.   Tech got robbed.   

The Wolverines defense and kicker played a good game, but the offense was horrendous.  Absolutely horrendous.  Our AD needs to have a serious talk with Brady Hoke after that embarrassment.  What do you call it when you run up the middle for 1 yard on 1st down EVERY TIME and expect a different result?  It was like watching a re-run of Bo losing Rose Bowl after Rose Bowl by running up the middle every down.  When will they learn? 

Maybe I’m the only Wolverine to think this way, but I hope Denard goes in the NFL draft.  I would rather see him battling Tebow next year.

While Michigan didn’t deserve to win, Michigan State did do us proud.  I thought they played a good game against Georgia and deserved to win in the end.  That was an exciting game with 3OTs.   
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on September 23, 2012, 03:51:29 pm
What do our Wolverines fans think of Rich Rodriguez’s gift that keeps on giving to the former champions of the west?  I’m talking about Denard Robinson.  His performance against Notre Dame last night was simply dismal.  We all have our bad days, but after 5 years at UofM learning a profession, I expect more proficiency.   

Denard seems like a great kid, but if you’re turning the ball over 5 times, it’s time to warm the bench and start grooming the next kid for the future.  UofM is really in a pickle with Denard.  They would take a whole lot of media criticism if they pull him out, but after 5 years of seeing the same mistakes over and over, we’re going to keep on loosing if we completely rely on him.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: Sundog on September 24, 2012, 12:58:01 am
No argument with your comments here, just observations.  The Wolves should have won that game in spite of not having a running game.  Twenty-one played well enough, one did not.

I'll be glad too, when the last ghosts of TWCIMFH are gone.

Still having fun!
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on September 24, 2012, 11:22:40 pm
LOL, I guess it could have been worst......  Like the 49 to 0 shellacking the Ducks gave Rich Rods new team!
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: Sundog on September 25, 2012, 02:20:05 pm
I thought the (Wolver)Weenies generally played fairly well.  D only gave up 13, mostly good patience on offense.  You wonder why Bo didn't throw so much?  Even when DR's passes weren't picked off they were always on the wrong side of the receiver, like when Gardener was wide open and he had to spin around to try and catch it, on two occasions.

I always tell people my second favorite team is ANYBODY playing Notre Dame, and now after UM beat themselves, all the Talking Heads are yakking about ND's return to "national relevance".  No doubt every team will give them 6 turnovers.

I feel for the kids at AU.  Having witnessed RR's debacle at UM, I'm sure he expected one kid to put up 50 points against Oregon while the rest of the team was ill prepared.  I didn't watch it, I have seen all I care to of RR.  Afterwards he no doubt blamed the kids while whining some CW song about how good HE is.

Such fun!
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on November 11, 2012, 11:33:08 pm
Is Urban Meyer creating a monster down there in Columbus?  This doesn’t look good for our bumbling Wolverines. :(  I’m getting real tired of getting beat this century by the Buckeyes.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on November 19, 2012, 12:31:45 am
So let me see if I’ve got this strait? 

Notre Dame and Ohio State are the only unbeaten teams in the land.  Notre Dame is ranked #1, so logically the Buckeyes are really the 2nd best team. 

So next weekend when the rejuvenated Wolverines beat the Buckeyes in Columbus, that makes us number 2, right?  That’s what I figured. :)
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: Intheswamp on November 19, 2012, 01:03:54 pm
So let me see if I’ve got this strait?
Still having problems getting things straight, eh?  :-D  

Notre Dame and Ohio State are the only unbeaten teams in the land.  Notre Dame is ranked #1, so logically the Buckeyes are really the 2nd best team.  
"Logically" the three leading polls have ALABAMA as #2.  I do see that the AP Poll has Ohio State listed in 4th place...USA Today and the BCS are not listing them.  Tressell or whatever his name was hurt the Buckeye's badly...I just wonder how far the tendrils of his questionable ethics went into the Ohio sports department.  Meyers is a good coach and a good man, he will do the program a lot of good.

So next weekend when the rejuvenated Wolverines beat the Buckeyes in Columbus, that makes us number 2, right?  That’s what I figured. :)
Still delusional, eh?  :laugh:


ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ed
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on November 25, 2012, 01:06:18 am
Well, it's Saturday night and THE game is over  :(.  Both sides played a good hard game.

I hate to say it, but the Buckeyes have proved that they are the NUMBER 1 team in college football this year, despite the phoney BCS.
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: Intheswamp on November 25, 2012, 12:06:42 pm
Nope, I strongly disagree.  The BCS had nothing really to do with Ohio State not being #1...Ohio State did it to themselves.  I hate it for the boys who are now being penalized for some bad player/coach ethics, but the rest of the schools have had restrictions put on them for their rule violations, too.  Unfortunately for OS, they will not be able to find out if they're #1 or not.

Do the crime, do the time. 

Ed
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: Sundog on November 25, 2012, 03:48:37 pm
I hate to say it, but the Buckeyes have proved that they are the NUMBER 1 team in college football this year, despite the phoney BCS.

I don’t agree with that.  The Bucks were nearly (and should have been) beaten by some very mediocre teams, including Michigan.  Al Borges called a terrible game and the Wolver Weenies still nearly won. 

The Tide got careless with Johnny Football, proving once again “that’s why they play the games”, but I don’t think there is a better team in college this year, or in and many other years.  I will concede that it takes a fair deal of good fortune to go undefeated (see Notre Dame).

Looks like the Boys in Blue will be playing at the Outback Bowl vs. LSU.  C’mon down.
http://cfn.scout.com/2/557866.html (http://cfn.scout.com/2/557866.html)
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: Intheswamp on November 26, 2012, 10:56:43 am
USC's freshman QB was good, but inconsistent, and he made a couple of errors (just like the snotty nosed brat Kiffin)...he'll be much better with maturity (the QB, that is).  Had Barkley not been injured I think the winner of the SEC championship (Alabama  :evil:) would be looking at a different opponent coming into the national championship game in January.  But, Notre Dame won and will be there and Ohio State is going home.

Sundog...that ain't "Boys in Blue"...that there's TIGAH MEAT!!!!  ;)

ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ed
Title: Re: TIGAH MEAT
Post by: Sundog on November 26, 2012, 01:04:23 pm
Sundog...that ain't "Boys in Blue"...that there's TIGAH MEAT!!!!  ;)

ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ed

It would probably be better if the “Tigahs” do win.  Then Miles won’t throw them under the bus… again.  I was relieved when UM chose TWCIMFH over Les, of course I did come to see it as an even worse choice.

So, Michigan’s best Quarterback, Running back, and Cornerback are injured.  Will you need anything else?.

Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: Intheswamp on November 27, 2012, 03:51:50 pm
...a little cajun seasoning?  :-D
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: Sundog on January 01, 2013, 01:56:24 pm
...a little cajun seasoning?  :-D

Pass a little of that sauce up to the kids at Clemson.   :-D  X:X
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on January 01, 2013, 10:38:41 pm
Les Miles is always entertaining, I’ll say that.  I enjoy watching LSU when they’re playing.  I just caught the end of the game the other day.  That loss has got to be painful to the LSU faithful.  I didn’t see the whole game, but I expected LSU to prevail at the end.  Did Les Miles play calling get confused from eating too much turf grass?
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: Intheswamp on January 03, 2013, 08:47:13 am
...a little cajun seasoning?  :-D

Pass a little of that sauce up to the kids at Clemson.   :-D  X:X

I hear you, Sundog.  Miles seemed off his game or something.  But, I haven't seen a more emotional coach than Swinney in a long time... :)

Dabo Swinney Excited (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6n5w3wXkeM#ws)
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on January 03, 2013, 12:09:25 pm
Now if they could just got as excited about getting a college education too. ;)


Did you see Jim Harbaugh after the 49ers beat the Lions last year?

Jim Schwartz vs Jim Harbaugh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWvZGR5xfXw#ws)
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: Intheswamp on January 03, 2013, 01:12:18 pm
I agree with you about the education part.  Lots of those kids make it to college on their playing ability, struggle to keep grades up, and all the while counting on getting picked by a pro team.  Then they get hurt, or run afoul of the law, or something else happens that prevents them from going pro...they end up with a memory and nothing else...no education, no pro career, no direction,...just kinda lost flippin' burgers at Mickey D's.

I missed the 49er/Lions situation, I watch very little pro sports.  I'll check the video out when I get home...computer here is sloooowwwwwww.

Ed
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: Intheswamp on January 03, 2013, 01:45:17 pm
Talking about the kids and their ball playing and educations made me think about the Honey Badger, Tyrran Mathieu, so I checked out his status.  The kid had it all going for him till he made some bad choices.  Seems like maybe he's getting his stuff back together.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/story/_/id/8689828/honey-badger-tyrann-mathieu-enter-nfl-draft (http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/story/_/id/8689828/honey-badger-tyrann-mathieu-enter-nfl-draft)

Ed
Title: Re: Big 10 Football
Post by: BlueBee on January 04, 2013, 02:58:33 am
The Honey Badger doesn’t have anything on Ohio State’s Star RB Maurice Clarett when it comes to throwing away opportunity.  He was the star RB on OSU National Championship team in 2002.  Pretty much guaranteed 1st round pick in the NFL and 10s of millions IF he would wait for eligibility.  Instead he sued the NFL to let him in as a sophomore.   That didn’t work so he ended up with a million in legal fees.  When he did get to the NFL, he declined a contract with a guaranteed $400K for some ridiculous pie in the sky contract.  Kicked out of Denver when he didn’t produce.

Then he got arrested for armed robbery and went to prison for 4 years.  Nice how armed robbery and driving around with a loaded AK-47 only gets you 4 years.

What kind of job does somebody like this really get?  1 year at OSU and likely didn't learn a thing academically.  When football fails, it seems these kids too often turn to drugs and thuggery.