the bike wheel is similar to what I had in mind. I have the blue drum, a drill, and will soon have some wood and hardware cloth. I plan on making a two frame extractor that can do deeps or shallows. I hope. I havent looked at the overall dimensions of the barrel yet. My plan is to make a large rectangular frame that will hang centered on a shaft. the sides of this rectangle will be covered in the hardware cloth. Ideally the frames will slide in with top bars facing the walls of the barrel. Looking at the measurements from the bike wheel extractor I will have to make an offset set of rectangles to allow for the depth of the deep frames. Then again, I dont use deep frames for honey so I may just stick with the rectangle. And just a comment about using a ball valve for the honey gate. I dont recommend it. It might work good once or twice, but I think that once honey gets up in the area behind the ball that it will eventually freeze up.