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Title: Glue
Post by: Georgia Boy on March 18, 2013, 09:41:56 pm
When gluing supers what is the best glue to use?

Thanks

David
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: AllenF on March 18, 2013, 09:57:34 pm
Lots of opinions on that.   I think that most of the glues out there work just fine.   I use Tite Bond II.   
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: bailey on March 18, 2013, 10:29:38 pm
I'm with Allen on the tight bond but Elmer's makes a wood glue gel that stays where you put it without runs.
It's great as well
Bailey
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: Moots on March 18, 2013, 11:35:18 pm
I went the little extra expense and use Titebond III, I'm early in but have no complaints so for...General consensus seems to be that it's ALL THAT!

Some will say that Titebond III is overkill and Titebond II is plenty sufficient...they very well may be right, but I like overkill.  :)
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: BeeMaster2 on March 18, 2013, 11:45:49 pm
If you are making finger joints, tite bond II works great. If you are using rabbit joints, I would use gorilla glue.
Jim
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: bailey on March 18, 2013, 11:50:52 pm
Gorilla glue will outlast the box!
Bailey.
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: Sundog on March 19, 2013, 12:23:53 am
Titebond II is plenty strong, Titebond III is stronger yet.  No nails needed, just clamp overnight.  Couldn’t give me Gorilla glue.

 8-)
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: Joe D on March 19, 2013, 02:29:08 am
Some I was building couple months ago, I ran out of glue, had on hand and used Liquid Nails. 





Joe
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: Intheswamp on March 19, 2013, 11:59:38 am
I went the little extra expense and use Titebond III, I'm early in but have no complaints so for...General consensus seems to be that it's ALL THAT!

Some will say that Titebond III is overkill and Titebond II is plenty sufficient...they very well may be right, but I like overkill.  :)

The only thing I use is Titebond III, not that that is a great endorsement or anything being as it's coming from me.  :laugh:  But, it has held up extremely well for me and I have not had a joint fail...but I'm only a year+ out with my woodenware.  I don't think you'll regret using it.

Ed
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: BeeMaster2 on March 19, 2013, 01:32:36 pm
I have been using Titebond II for at least 20 years. It has never failed. about 15 years ago I even soaked a 45 degree glue joint in water to see if it would fail and it didn't. I don't remember how long I did it but it held.
Jim
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: PLAN-B on March 19, 2013, 04:49:13 pm
Titebond III is what i use. Have used gorilla glue in the past and it does work well, but it expands a lot when drying and tends to push joints apart if not clamped. If using it for a nice project it will also entail a lot of chisseling or planing off excess glue...
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: hardwood on March 19, 2013, 06:29:43 pm
Titebond II or III. III is a bit better for exterior use but I've never had a problem with II.

Scott
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: Intheswamp on March 20, 2013, 09:57:05 am
Oh, and don't be bashful with the glue.  What squeezes out of the joints I smear across the end grain of the wood helping to weatherproof it.  Naturally this wouldn't work well if you were using a stain of some type, but for painting it works good.  A little sawdust mixed with the glue makes some pretty good "filler", too. ;)

Ed
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: BeeMaster2 on March 20, 2013, 12:12:09 pm
Oh, and don't be bashful with the glue.  What squeezes out of the joints I smear across the end grain of the wood helping to weatherproof it.  Naturally this wouldn't work well if you were using a stain of some type, but for painting it works good.  A little sawdust mixed with the glue makes some pretty good "filler", too. ;)

Ed

I do the same thing, Ed.
Jim
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: rbinhood on March 20, 2013, 02:49:50 pm
LOL when all those fancy glues fail a nice big new roll of ducktape works wonders.   :flyingpig:
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: Georgia Boy on March 20, 2013, 09:00:25 pm
You do realize that is just redneck don't you. LOL  :-D :-D :-D

David
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: fishman on March 21, 2013, 09:01:15 am
And another reason I personally use Titebond is it says is approved for indirect food contact. Maybe makes no difference, but I like it. I have had no problems with it at all.
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: capt44 on March 21, 2013, 07:30:56 pm
I use Tite bond III and Gorilla Wood Glue.
Both are good.
When it sets up the board will usually split somewhere besides where it was glued.
I use them on Rabbit Joints and when it dries that box is solid.
I put the boards in the box Jig I built, glue the rabbits and braid nail it.
When it dries it's square and solid.
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: Georgia Boy on March 30, 2013, 09:37:59 pm
Thanks guys,

Got some Tite bond III and its working wonders.

David
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: shinbone on April 20, 2013, 09:56:04 am
I use Tightbond III.  It may be overkill, but the extra cost is negligible over Tightbond II.

I've used Gorilla Glue on other projects, and it seems to get brittle with age and then crack easily.  Too bad because I like how it expands to push itself into all the nooks and crannies of a joint.
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: capt44 on April 20, 2013, 10:09:56 am
I put the Gorilla Wood Glue in the same category as Tite Bond.
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: nella on April 20, 2013, 10:11:48 am
Titebond III, it is water proof.
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: Moots on April 20, 2013, 12:03:22 pm
I put the Gorilla Wood Glue in the same category as Tite Bond.

I haven't used Gorilla Glue enough to have an opinion.  However, I do find it interesting that people have very strong opinions about it, it seems to be a very polarizing glue.  :)
Folks either swear it's the best thing since sliced bread, or they say it't total garbage.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: Sundog on April 20, 2013, 03:52:21 pm
@ Jeff

Check out some wordworking forums and see what they think of GG v. TB.

 8-)
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: ralittlefield on April 20, 2013, 08:40:44 pm
Tite Bond III is water proof and can be used at lower temperature.  I heat my shop with a wood stove and so a lower work temp makes a difference to me. 
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: BlueBee on April 20, 2013, 09:23:33 pm
However, I do find it interesting that people have very strong opinions about it, it seems to be a very polarizing glue.  :)

A sure sign of bee keepers  :laugh:

Most of my hives are above water, so tite bond 2 is sufficient for my bees.  I’ve also used Gorilla Wood Glue and Gorilla polyurethane.  Just about anything is better than nothing.  Just put some glue on it Moots and don’t worry about it. :) 

Title: Re: Glue
Post by: Moots on April 20, 2013, 10:36:23 pm
However, I do find it interesting that people have very strong opinions about it, it seems to be a very polarizing glue.  :)

A sure sign of bee keepers  :laugh:

Most of my hives are above water, so tite bond 2 is sufficient for my bees.  I’ve also used Gorilla Wood Glue and Gorilla polyurethane.  Just about anything is better than nothing.  Just put some glue on it Moots and don’t worry about it. :) 



LOL! Roger that Blue...no worry here.  :)

I use titebond III and while I'll acknowledge it's probably overkill, it's my natural tendency to over engineer things.  :)
I'm a firm believer in the use of glue, I can remember as a small child watching my dad use glue on a building project and his telling me that the nails do nothing but hold it until the glue can dry.
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: RHBee on April 20, 2013, 10:41:32 pm
Hey guys I've been using Titebond III. Is it stronger or just more waterproof?
Title: Re: Glue
Post by: Sundog on April 24, 2013, 10:33:27 am

Looks like a bit more of both.

 8-)

http://www.titebond.com/Libraries/LiteraturePDFs/FF683_GlueGuideTB.sflb.ashx (http://www.titebond.com/Libraries/LiteraturePDFs/FF683_GlueGuideTB.sflb.ashx)