Beemaster's International Beekeeping Forum
BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => RAPID BEEYARD GROWTH => Topic started by: teebo on February 19, 2007, 03:48:16 pm
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for spring built-up can you just feed sugar water, or do you have to feed pollen patties also? :?
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>for spring built-up can you just feed sugar water, or do you have to feed pollen patties also?
They won't build up in the spring unless they have adequate stores of honey and adequate amounts of pollen. If there is a lot of pollen in the hive, it may not make much difference if you feed pollen. If there is not it will make a lot of difference. The same with stores. If they are at all light in stores they will hesitate to start raising a lot of brood. If they have syrup then they get the impression that there is a source of nectar coming in and they are more willing to raise brood.
To distill that down, it makes a lot of difference if they don't have it.
Once there is a source of fresh pollen they tend to ignore the pollen patties.
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I use syrup from dadant and feed continusly from the top of the hive to make mine build up fast. They were bringing in their own pollen.
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I use syrup from dadant and feed continusly from the top of the hive to make mine build up fast. They were bringing in their own pollen.
You live in Florida. Pollen feeding is used when nature give not pollen. Sugar feeding does not help in spring build up if bees have not pollen.
Strange thing. Just when one discussion is finished it begins again and same guys use same speech. :-P
And we each have learned nothing.
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Can i feed syrup with terramycin or other medesins when there is no brood? Will it help?
Thanks!
Ivan
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Can i feed syrup with terramycin or other medesins when there is no brood? Will it help?
Thanks!
Ivan
I would say yes but with the terramycin i would mix with powder sugar and sprinkle on one end of the frame rest.
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I'm in Oklahoma, and we have pollen pretty much year round. You may also, watch your bees on warm days and see what they are bringing in. You might be surprised. I usually start feeding syrup about 3 weeks after solstice, and my hives are building nicely.
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>Can i feed syrup with terramycin
No one recommends syrup as a method of using terramycin anymore. Most of the scientist now recommend you DON'T use terramycin since it will simply mask AFB symptoms anyway and the AFB is now getting resistance BECAUSE of all the use of terramycin as a preventative.
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ivan; It will do no good to treat with terramycin if your bees aren't raising brood. Charlie
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Did any one have any experience with Tylan? How affective is it? How do i mix it?
Thanks!
Ivan
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Did any one have any experience with Tylan? How affective is it? How do i mix it?
Thanks!
Ivan
I mix Tylan with powderd sugar or buy the premix in a shaker can from dadant.
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What ratio of tylan to powder are you using?
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1:1 -------equal parts will do the trick. :)
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That should kill them pretty fast :shock:Any body got a better idea?
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I have read some articles that indicate that Tylan stays in the comb etc more than terramycin does.
I don't recall exactly where those articles were, in beekeeping mags or farming mags.
If you want to avoid contaminated comb stay away from chemicals including antibiotics.
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What are some natural medesines i can use against foulbrood?
Thanks!
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What kind of foulbrood? When are the larvae dying? What do they look like?
http://www.bushfarms.com/beespests.htm#chalkbrood
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I don't have foulbrood but just interested what are some natural medesines i can use to prevent it or treat it.
Thanks
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I don't have foulbrood but just interested what are some natural medesines i can use to prevent it or treat it.
Thanks
hmmmm, interesting question. well, i do know the answer is, keep the colonys strong, and i do know that getting the foulbrood is a chain of events BUT, what events? the foulbrood doesn't just fall from the sky now does it?
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Mici; Keeping colonies strong doesn't prevent AFB. In fact a strong colony is more apt to get it. Charlie
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when i was writting the question i had that baning in my head, but it seemed absurd to me-i had to have had it wrong, so i wrote it anyways.
but the question remains, what chain of events cause it?
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>Keeping colonies strong doesn't prevent AFB.
Everything I've read would say it does and that weak colonies tend to get AFB.
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Your weak colony could have been exposed to the afb from a strong colony with afb entering the weaker colony. I have seen this happen. Charlie
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What amount of pollen substitute or pollen should I have on hand to jump start an over wintered colony and how much for a new package? (Natural pollen will probably be available when the pkg arrives.)