Hi HCK, I have them on the lucerne, the mother inlaw checked the trees up her way and they were already finishing up. The messmate should be in full flower up at Trentham, will check it out this Sunday. Still looks like next year is going to be a great year on the gums, heaps of buds. By the way,I hope you can keep updating whats in bloom, good to learn about whats going on. Lance