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How'bout that 2012?
« on: November 05, 2007, 07:21:46 pm »
Anybody getting ready?
Anybody thinkin' its Y2K again?
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Re: How'bout that 2012?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2007, 07:34:05 pm »
funny you should mention that  :-).  there was just some stuff on the history channel about the Mayans.  it was interesting.  there is much on the 'net about 2012.  some is bizarre, and some more believable.

i can not help but wonder if people do not simply need an impending crisis of one type or another to distract them.  it seems the end of the world is always just around the bend.  it may well come, but i doubt there will be anything that we do to cause it, or can do to stop it. 

perhaps the best we can do, is to do the best we can do.  enjoy life as we find it and try to leave things a little better than we found them.  all else is in gods hands.
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Re: How'bout that 2012?
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2007, 06:44:39 am »
I've been studying the many theories of December 21, 2012 (the end of the Mayan Calendar) and what (if any) impact it has on man today.

The interesting part is that MANY PEOPLE feel that it is Not a disasterous nor a enlightened time, but a time of change of a different type. The options of change are endless of course, any change (no matter how insignificant is still change) but many things are happening on this date, most of which is outside the reaches of Man and far from Earth, it is an alignment of the planets and our Solar System with areas far deep into the center of the Milkyway Galaxy.

The believers who put their faith in this massive alignment seem to think of POLAR SHIFTS, or flips in the magnetic poles, which has been proven through science to occure many times in Earth's History. Of course, pole shifting in the past had very little effects to man and beast - if major changes occured, no one able to write of these walked the Earth, nor communicated it to be passed on until today.

Pole shifting today though, COULD HAVE important and profound changes. from the simplest navagational devices we use, the location of satelites, the engines and motors that power everything all of a suddent want to work backwards and often would lose phases and die.

It would be a notable encounter to say the least, but seeming survivable. You wouldn't expect weather in general to change, but you might see jet-streams move differently, the extent of what happens generally effects mechanical design first, the after effects of this will no doubt trickle down to humans.

The Electromagnetic field surrounding and protecting the Earth from deadly solar radiation is created at the center of the Earth where a solid core is surrounded by the liquid outer core which rotates around the inner core, producing a great atmospheric shield that protects us and keeps us from cooking as if in a giant microwave. A sift of poles has indeed happened and NOT always 180 degrees, making South now North and visa-versa but several recored times (through studying rocks and land changes thought to be millions and millions of years ago and as recent as 25 thousand years ago.

Other people think it a second coming of the Lord, but more believe it is a ime of enlightening, a time when we will have a piffany of mind or a radical change in the way our beings interact with the elements of the Universe. Imagine waking to a world where a sixth or seven sense becomes generally experienced by all humans or some understanding (a glimpse) into the real meaning of life, not necessarilly a religious experience, but a new knowledge that we are all part of a live and prolific Universe.

If it is a day of awakening, it could be many things, some written about in great science fiction novels, others mentioned in parable in the books of faith.

If such a thing as experts exist, many agree it will be a good and awakening time for the humans of our small planet. It is too soon for us to walk on Mars (we should barely be back to the Moon by then) but LIFE has a way to find us throught meteors, comets, and small space debre that eventually will make it here proving WE are not alone.

I'd be happy if enlightenment were what we achieve, whether through technology or prophecy - something to give man a reason to quit killing themselves and moving on toward a species who coexist without the need for physical borders.

I really would hope that the last possibility that comes up is the least likely - although it is the REACTION to the following by us is where my concern leans. Some people say that it is time for an evolutionary change will begin - a time where new borns are capable of great and magical things. A new age where Homo-sapian raises a new and evolved species where we have great minds capable of all things in science that only mistify us now. Or maybe healers and beings where the temptation of the physical body is of no challenge to the morals of the conscious mind.

Of course, 12/21/2012 may come and go with nothing, and those who claim that the Mayan Calendar didn't end, they just ran out of rock to chistle it on. I hope we are all around to see that day come and go and see if anything is different - and more importantly, it is there for the better.
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Re: How'bout that 2012?
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2007, 12:56:44 am »
Bah, that's nothing, wait until January 14 2038 at 3:14:07 GMT

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Re: How'bout that 2012?
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2007, 10:41:01 pm »
  They discovered an asteroid back in November. It's now between Earth and Mars heading toward Mars. In has a good chance of hitting Mars in January.
  Think about it. When they found it it was already past us heading toward Mars. And it was within 90 days from possible impact. Not much time.
   2012 is 4 years off. Time to think.
 
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Re: How'bout that 2012?
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2007, 11:12:45 pm »
  Awww, man....Now I gotta look up 2038...Hmmm,..thats not so bad,...I'll be 80 and wont even care if i have my underwear on backwards..Or, perhaps ill be wearing it on my head by then!
  Hitting mars in January? I wonder if we can see anything?

 Arright Brendhan!!
I got ready for the regular Y2k.(The only person I know who did 'cep for my wife!) I guess i''ll have experience for it though!
Now I have something else to focus on and FREAK ME RIGHT FREAKIN" OUT!
 Well, I better go put the colander on my head...aliens, ya know?!
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Re: How'bout that 2012?
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2007, 11:17:20 pm »
  They discovered an asteroid back in November. It's now between Earth and Mars heading toward Mars. In has a good chance of hitting Mars in January.
  Think about it. When they found it it was already past us heading toward Mars. And it was within 90 days from possible impact. Not much time.
   2012 is 4 years off. Time to think.
 

I call it the Chicken Little Sydrome (CLS).  For those who have nothing better to worry about than the possible end of life as we know--get a life.  If it happens, it happens.  I won't even mind not surviving it.  I've already faced death enough times to fear it any more.
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Re: How'bout that 2012?
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2007, 12:04:32 am »
I hear you loud and clear Brian. What's the use in worrying about the inevitable anyways?
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Re: How'bout that 2012?
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2007, 12:33:49 am »
OK Brendhan, are you going to tell us????

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Re: How'bout that 2012?
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2007, 10:37:07 am »
Brendhan wants to keep us in suspense! This past week I remember looking at the clock two different days and saw 11:11. I thought that was neat but nothing more than that, I'm not supertitious. I knew the whole y2k thing was a crock, just work your bees and keep things in perspective, we will go when our time is up, and not a minute sooner.

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Re: How'bout that 2012?
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2007, 10:45:23 am »
OK John, you are one funnnnnneeeeee dude.  I picture you in many years to come, underwear on backwards, more than likely on your head!!!  Now that would be a funny picture, hee, hee, you brought that squeeky chuckle to my face.  Beautiful day, great life.  Cindi
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Re: How'bout that 2012?
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2007, 05:38:21 pm »
2038 is another potential computer crash.  i'm thinking that if technology advances for the next 20 years as it did the past 20, most of those systems will be gone anyway.  i am with brian.  worry about what you can do something about, leave the rest alone.  it's only mind clutter.

i do admit that before i started working for red cross, i did not realize how very unprepared most people are for even a small disaster.  sometimes, when i am frustrated by what i see, i wonder if disasters are not a part of the natural selection process.  perhaps we do a disservice to humanity by constantly rescuing them from what they should have been ready for.
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Re: How'bout that 2012?
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2007, 06:24:59 pm »
[quote author=kathyp

i do admit that before i started working for red cross, i did not realize how very unprepared most people are for even a small disaster.  sometimes, when i am frustrated by what i see, i wonder if disasters are not a part of the natural selection process. perhaps we do a disservice to humanity by constantly rescuing them from what they should have been ready for.[/quote]

What do you mean here Kathy?

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Re: How'bout that 2012?
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2007, 08:43:32 pm »
she means that you or anyone else is the only person responsible for what happens to you/him. so, if truckers go on strike (like they did in Italy two weeks ago) and you're not prepared-don't have at least some food at home, we shouldn't help you, you should starve if not perish, just because you weren't prepared for such little inconvenience.

i agree on this one with Kathy-disservice to humanity, we can try to help to feed Africa forever, nothing will change....but I'll stop at this point, because one could write a whole lot of things about it.
I'll just say, a computer crash is the least we have to worry about, i don't wanna be a smart ass because i only read this thing and...I'll just give you the read thread, read the book if you want. oil is becoming a problem, so is water, there can't be life without water, so so is food production-it's all in the book, there are very pessimistic projections, but on the other hand..we can all already see it happening. basicly, the world is coming to an end, but only the world we know and are living in, probably just need to adapt.
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Re: How'bout that 2012?
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2007, 08:47:36 pm »
i mean what i said.  and yes, i suppose it is as harsh as it might sound.  there are people who really do need help.  they are old, or in some other way unable to care for themselves.  there are many more who are simply to lazy or dependent on others to be bothered pulling their own ass out of the ditch.

i understand that bad stuff happens and people need help, but there are a number of reasons that i am on the list to go in early on disasters.  some has to do with my training.  more has to do with the fact that i don't respond well to what i find weeks after disasters.  trauma i can deal with.  whining makes me crazy.
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Re: How'bout that 2012?
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2007, 10:42:33 pm »
Hee heee ....Cindi,
 Theres a TRUE story I'm fixing to tell you(and everybody else).
 A few years back...Ok, about 8 years back...I got up early one morning(it was a weekend and its always easy to get up early on weekends in the summer) and it was still dark..Janelle was still in bed so i left the lite off. I went to the bathroom,...brushed my teeth,..put on a little "No Bath" and went to put on my khaki shorts.(3rd drawer down)..This particular morning I realized I was putting on weight, more than I realized recently. I went to yanking my shorts up and .."CRAP!" I had gotten so big in a week that i couldnt pull up my shorts anymore!!..So, bouncing around on the edge of the bed, then hopping from one foot to the other trying to get these shorts up, I accidentally woke up my wife!
 Upon her awakening, she turned on the lite to see me hopping and growling and cussing up a storm by this time!! I just couldnt get these shorts up!..Next thing I know, My wife is laughing and screaming at me till water started coming out of her eyes!..I didnt know why but seeing her like this made me start laughing!..Then I realized why!!! I looked down, only to find myself pulling up a khaki colored SKIRT!!!..Somehow, Janelles skirt got put into my drawer instead of hers! As it was still dark I just continued to try and get these "shorts"on my butt until I woke her up!
 I still get a look from Janelle whenever she passes when I'm putting on my shorts!
 So,...maybe I'll just wear a dress instead of backwards underwear on doomsday!! I'm sure I'll have to get a larger size than my wife wears though..Janelle says I'd need a size 26!!
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Re: How'bout that 2012?
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2007, 12:27:43 am »
funny :-) in my post, a** was changed to butt by the powers that be.  somehow this biblical quote doesn't sound right if the same changes are made.  that part of my post was an oblique reference to this passage....not that it matters.....but the change sounds wierd.....and it's late.... :evil:



Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the sabbath day? Luke 14:5

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Re: How'bout that 2012?
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2007, 12:43:20 am »
Hey Kathy,..hee heee....Its ALL in the PRESENTATION!
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Re: How'bout that 2012?
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2007, 05:09:46 am »
Thanks for the elaboration Kathy. I'm with you 100%. I believe we help those who help themselves, as for constant freeloading, the lines are on the left, take a seat, you are last, because that's where you remain to stay.

John, leave the skirts for the wife, thank you. I think I've done something similar in the dark before where my wife and I cracked up, amazing what we do when we're semi-conscious. :-D

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« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2007, 01:48:20 pm »
John, OK, now you are spreading that squeaky laughing to an upright roar, ha, he, hee, hee, hee.  Picture that, your Wife must have been just killin' herself with those laughs of glory!!!!!

Kathy, what would have happened if you had three or 4 "s"es on the end of the "a" word.  The point would have gotten across, hee, hee, "butt" just doesn't cutt ittt.  Have a wonderful and best of this day.  Cindi
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