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Title: Honey production and split question.
Post by: RangerBrad on May 06, 2012, 04:10:02 pm
Hey folks, I have a wild queen that I would like to keep genetics from. she is such a proficient layer that I split her hive 4 ways on the 30Th of march. I gave her and 2 Sunkist's about 2  frames of brood a piece. and left the majority of a 2 hive body colony with a Sunkist cordovan queen. She has out layed them and now fills 1 deep, 1 shallow and is half a medium above the queen excluder filled with honey.

I have 6 hives but only 2 with enough bees to harvest honey this season, hers being one of them. I want to do a split with her hive however late splits in this area are very hard to build up as we have virtually no fall crop.

 I was thinking of taking her and a couple of frames of brood and making a new hive and leaving the rest of the hive and foragers to make a new queen and produce honey. Is this a good idea or will this greatly effect the Honey production of her now existing hive? Thoughts please. Brad
Title: Re: Honey production and split question.
Post by: Finski on May 06, 2012, 04:35:52 pm
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You should first let them grow to the size of honey production. It means at least 4 langstroth boxes.

When my yield begins, I move them to outer pastures and join hives so that every one has 6 boxes if they do not have.

I make nucs too, but I make them in the middle of summer when main hives are large.  I split hives only to cut swarming and then I join them again.

I have mating nucs as much as productive nucs. First mating nug needs only one frames of bees. 10 days later the queen starts to lay and then I add a emerging brood frame. Then again the nuc continues 4 weeks and it own bees start to fill the nuc. It is time to add room to the nuc and join it to another nuc when I take a queen away.
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In Spring the hive needs every frame of bees to build up to a productive hive.

Every time when you split the hive, it moves its surpluss foraging  2 months away

I try to catch 100 kg honey per hive in one month. Our summer is short. It does not stand splitting.

After main yield I may split a big hive to 2 or 3 and they will be good winterers.

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