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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => EQUIPMENT USAGE, EXPERIMENTATION, HIVE PLANS, CONSTRUCTION TIPS AND TOOLS => Topic started by: BrentX on December 21, 2010, 09:51:49 pm

Title: SBB for Swarm Trap?
Post by: BrentX on December 21, 2010, 09:51:49 pm
So I have built a few 4 frame boxes for growing the bee yard.

One of the intended uses is for catching swarms.  When used in that way the little nuc boxes will get a few frames of comb and a shot of lemon grass oil.  In this application would a screened bottom board be more effective than a solid bottom?
Title: Re: SBB for Swarm Trap?
Post by: AllenF on December 21, 2010, 09:58:48 pm
With my traps, I always use solid bottoms.   I think the swarm may take to the closed up box better than with an open hive.   Maybe someone will chime n that has ran both to see which catches more.   
Title: Re: SBB for Swarm Trap?
Post by: BrentX on December 23, 2010, 09:58:54 am
Thanks.  By my way of thinking like a bee, a closed up space would be more attractive to a new colony looking for a place to grow. But thought I would check here for confirmation with others experience.
Title: Re: SBB for Swarm Trap?
Post by: VolunteerK9 on December 23, 2010, 04:44:31 pm
I'm not sure where I got the plans from now, I just checked Beesource and they weren't on there, but I built some 5 frame medium swarm traps that had a SBB with a removable bottom cover. Catch you swarm, bring them home, and once the queen is laying well, remove the bottom board. I got the plans somewhere on the internet but basically a nuc with a migratory top that could be hung from a tree.
Title: Re: SBB for Swarm Trap?
Post by: AllenF on December 23, 2010, 07:25:16 pm
I just use old nucs for traps.   Leave them in there until they need to move into a 10 frame hive.   I also have 2 old 10 frame boxes made from 2 inch wood (very old and every rough) that I set out for traps.
Title: Re: SBB for Swarm Trap?
Post by: tefer2 on December 23, 2010, 07:42:25 pm
  http://www.honeyrunapiaries.com/plans/5nuc.pdf (http://www.honeyrunapiaries.com/plans/5nuc.pdf)
Try these plans from Tim .
Title: Re: SBB for Swarm Trap?
Post by: Tommyt on December 23, 2010, 07:42:58 pm
So I have built a few 4 frame boxes for growing the bee yard.

One of the intended uses is for catching swarms.  When used in that way the little nuc boxes will get a few frames of comb and a shot of lemon grass oil.  In this application would a screened bottom board be more effective than a solid bottom?
 I recommend the Dcoates super simple Nuc design ,I'll be hanging them across the county  :-D
http://www.beekeepingforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1733 (http://www.beekeepingforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1733)

I know he has them here and other places this is the first I found doing a Google search with his name and NUC

Tommyt

edited to say
 I found more on his Idea/Plans


http://forum.beemaster.com/index.php/topic,27006.msg212166.html#msg212166 (http://forum.beemaster.com/index.php/topic,27006.msg212166.html#msg212166)

http://s196.photobucket.com/albums/aa190/Drew454/Nuc%20plans/ (http://s196.photobucket.com/albums/aa190/Drew454/Nuc%20plans/)
Title: Re: SBB for Swarm Trap?
Post by: Kathyp on December 23, 2010, 07:57:48 pm
i use screened bottoms when i set traps out that are going to have to be trucked home.  it's easier to close them and not worry about ventilation on the drive back.  i also don't have to change anything when i put them in the yard.  just plop them down as they are.

other than that, i would have no preference.  the solids are cheaper to make/buy so if that's an issue, go with them.  you can always tape screen over the entrance when you move them.
Title: Re: SBB for Swarm Trap?
Post by: Robo on December 23, 2010, 10:02:02 pm
I make my $2 swarm traps out of 3/8 plywood, 1/4 Luan and free coroplast signs.   They are light and cheap so I don't worry about loosing a few.   I too find that bees seem to like a closed in and dark space.

(http://www.bushkillfarms.com/gallery2/d/1985-2/IMG_2505.JPG)