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« on: January 28, 2017, 10:22:15 PM »
If I am going to wear gloves what kind should I wear. I just don't like the nitrile gloves and they are so handy and convenient as we stock there where I work and where I work is right beside my hives and my family and I own the place so they cost me nothing.  With that being said I am not brave or skilled enough to work without gloves so what is my next best option.

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Re: Bee gloves
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2017, 10:33:07 PM »
I just don't like the nitrile gloves and they are so handy and convenient as we stock there where I work and where I work is right beside my hives and my family and I own the place so they cost me nothing.

So you are saying you don't like the nitriles? Just confused by I don't like " but they are so handy and convenient....they cost me nothing. Just want to make sure I read this right before I reply.
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Re: Bee gloves
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2017, 10:42:31 PM »
Correct. I don't like them at all.

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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2017, 10:47:25 PM »
What mil gloves are you using?  I use 9mm gloves although I do take a hit if they are tight and the bees are cranky.  I use 22 mil gloves on bad girls and I just bought an 18 mil pair that I have not used.    I do not like leather because of lack of dexterity.  The 22 mil develop a "distink" odor, any suggestion on this problem would be appreciated.  I also can take a FEW stings to hands because it helps my arthritis

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Re: Bee gloves
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2017, 10:55:37 PM »
I will look at the mill when I get to work on Monday. They are pretty thick as we sell it to sanitation/septic workers and they like them thick.

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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2017, 11:09:12 PM »
I bought some duraflock on the recommendation of divemaster and have not looked back. Yep they cause hands to sweat a lot but have great dexterity. Some thin cloth liners would compliment them well, like some jewelry stores or gun shops handle their merchandise with.

After the nitrile you get leather and tend to squeeze a lot of bees which tends to piss them off...

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Re: Bee gloves
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2017, 10:32:59 AM »
I am allergic to stings so I need gloves that protect me.  Leather can be stung through.  Cloth also, but not as easily.  The think heavy rubber gloves that are about 1/32-1/16 thick (which I got at Home Depot) are (so far) inpenetratable.  Seems they can sting the glove but the stinger will not advance all the way through the glove. 

I don't have as much dexterity in them as I would like, but they do function.
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2017, 05:03:34 PM »
Correct. I don't like them at all.

I have used the rubber coated cotton garden gloves warn on the opposite hand.  The trick is to get them big enough.  The reason for opposite hand is so the cotton is on the inside of the hand and the rubber on the outside of the hand.  I have leather gloves but they prevent you from feeling anything and usually what happens is you pinch a bee and one sting sets them in a frenzy.  When the hive is small I can go bare handed but by the time it gets 5 boxes high it is too much intimidation for me.
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2017, 10:02:40 PM »
I might just get some good goat skin gloves. I am not allergic to stings but don't particularly like them either. I would just rather protect my hands.

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« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2017, 08:35:12 AM »
I don't wear gloves unless the hive is crazy. Just smoke them hands up and move slowly.
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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2017, 09:17:04 AM »
Just smoke them hands up and move slowly.

Even if you wear gloves smoke the hands up.
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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2017, 09:56:16 AM »
Thanks. I saw a pair of ventilated bee gloves on Amazon. With how hot it gets here those are looking might tempting.

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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2017, 01:09:55 PM »
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Re: Bee gloves
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2017, 02:03:53 PM »
I used to not wear gloves at all, but got tired of the regular pings in my Russian x hive.  They're a bit defensive during inspection season.

I have the ventilated bee gloves and I do wear them when I'm not in the mood to move really slowly.   I've taken a ton of stingers to them, but never through them.  I like them a lot.

I've worn the nitrile and got pinged through them the very first time.   Also, they make my hands sweat and the fingers are just a tad too long for how I need them so the fingertips kept getting caught between boxes when I'd re-stack.   Also, they're a bit short and sometimes pull down and leave a gap at the wrist.

I've been wondering about a nice set of flocked dish gloves ...  In the meantime, I'm mostly using the ventilated long leather ones.   They work fine.
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2017, 03:02:01 PM »

I've been wondering about a nice set of flocked dish gloves ...  In the meantime, I'm mostly using the ventilated long leather ones.   They work fine.
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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2017, 03:51:50 PM »
   Also, they're a bit short and sometimes pull down and leave a gap at the wrist.


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« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2017, 04:11:03 PM »
Well I just bought me some new gloves from Humble Bee off Amazon. Hope they are good quality. I will know Wednesday

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Re: Bee gloves
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2017, 12:36:39 PM »
bw, you mentioned getting good quality goatskin gloves and I think quality's the key.  Goat is a tough, flexible, durable leather that remains more flexible than pig or cow hide when it dries out after a soaking.  You might want to oil the leather, too, so that it remains softer after drying out.  You can wash the propolis off goatskin and it won't shrink and stiffen like others.  If you wear leather gloves, that is the way to go, IMO.

Early in the season I sometimes go bare handed.  Most of the season I wear nitrile gloves (5mil), getting stings only occasionally.  Rarely do I feel the need to wear my leather (goat) gloves, but I do keep them handy for those times.
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« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2017, 01:28:13 PM »
I wear a jacket with long sleeves.  So I buy roping gloves (aka doeskin gloves aka buckskin gloves) that are thin leather and tuck them into my sleeves.  Easy to get on and off.  Cooler than having canvas running up my arms...
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Re: Bee gloves
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2017, 10:54:57 AM »
I bought some duraflock on the recommendation of divemaster and have not looked back. Yep they cause hands to sweat a lot but have great dexterity.

http://www.beemaster.com/forum/index.php?topic=49052.msg426573#msg426573

I've finally bought some of these too. Can't wait to try them out. I've been using some ventilated goat skin gloves. I like them too.
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Re: Bee gloves
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2017, 11:48:28 PM »
I would like to work around the bees and not wear all the gear.
The next time I inspect the hive, I am going to just use smoke at the beginning and as necessary and see how it goes.
Last full inspection, I had long sleeve shirt, veil, and cotton gloves, not one Bee came near me.

When you watch video clips, many Beekeepers wear nothing, like The Fat Beeman, J P the Beeman, and many others.
Look at clips of J P the Beeman, he is removing huge wild colonies and never wears protection.
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« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2017, 01:32:05 AM »
>I would like to work around the bees and not wear all the gear.

Wear what you are comfortable with.  But I would advise to always protect your face.

>The next time I inspect the hive, I am going to just use smoke at the beginning and as necessary and see how it goes.

A little smoke goes a long way.  If you smoke them to much they can get a bit upset.  Typically they just need enough to distract them from what you are doing.

>Last full inspection, I had long sleeve shirt, veil, and cotton gloves, not one Bee came near me.

When your hive(nuc) is small there aren't enough guard bees to waste attacking you.

>When you watch video clips, many Beekeepers wear nothing, like The Fat Beeman, J P the Beeman, and many others.
Look at clips of J P the Beeman, he is removing huge wild colonies and never wears protection.

Even JP has a full suit handy for the mean hives.  And most of the Fat Beeman videos I've seen he's dealing with a smaller hive.  Experience will tell you when the bees are in a pissy mood.

>Do stingers go through latex / nitrile surgical gloves?

I don't know the answer about the gloves since I've never worn gloves when working my hives.  I do take the occasional sting on the hands though. 

 

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« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2017, 09:23:01 AM »
I have some heavy 22 mil gloves That I use on bad hives and cut outs. Just working hives I usually go bare on casual inspections, but on a real inspection I use 9mm nitril gloves that are reusable BUT they CAN sting through them.  Goodluck Captain

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« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2017, 10:46:42 AM »
I quit wearing nitrile gloves after I got stung through them.  (very sweaty)  I only wear a veil and light colored shirt and use smoke. I get a sting one in a while. Oh well.
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« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2017, 01:24:50 PM »
Ohhh there are times JP wears a suit.... he gauges the pissyness of the bees  :wink: The other fellow you mentioned... keep your bees on a constant feed of sugar and you too could have stingless bees...  :shocked:
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« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2017, 02:18:33 PM »
Part of JP trick is he smokes himself up real good before working the bees.
A new trick I just started is smoking the bees 10 minutes before I work on a hive. Then I smoke it 30 seconds before opening it. Even my strongest hives are gentle after following this procedure.
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« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2017, 04:41:09 PM »
Part of JP trick is he smokes himself up real good before working the bees.
Does he have scubba equipment?  LOL
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Re: Bee gloves
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2017, 05:02:05 PM »
Anyone have a link to the ventilated goatskin gloves?


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« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2017, 05:03:05 PM »
A new trick I just started is smoking the bees 10 minutes before I work on a hive. Then I smoke it 30 seconds before opening it. Even my strongest hives are gentle after following this procedure.
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Yes, this is what Michael B recommends and it does work really well.

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Re: Bee gloves
« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2017, 06:21:07 PM »
Part of JP trick is he smokes himself up real good before working the bees.
A new trick I just started is smoking the bees 10 minutes before I work on a hive. Then I smoke it 30 seconds before opening it. Even my strongest hives are gentle after following this procedure.
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Good idea. Do you suite up much when doing this?

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« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2017, 09:10:50 PM »
Part of JP trick is he smokes himself up real good before working the bees.
A new trick I just started is smoking the bees 10 minutes before I work on a hive. Then I smoke it 30 seconds before opening it. Even my strongest hives are gentle after following this procedure.
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Similar to what I have been doing but just waiting 1-2 minutes, now I will wait lol ng ER after initial smoking.
Last full inspection, after smoking, I set the smoker on the table beside the hive and I noticed that a light bit of smoke was coming out of smoker and wafting across the top of the hive so I put it down so it wasn't smoking the hive too much.
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« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2017, 09:34:49 PM »
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I noticed that a light bit of smoke was coming out of smoker and wafting across the top of the hive.

Perfect,  How do you train the smoke?  I put mine on the hive next to the one I am working and it ignores the hive I am working on and goes right in my eyes or nose.  Then I get mad and move it ten ft away.  The smoke is more annoying then the stings.
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« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2017, 09:40:03 PM »
Part of JP trick is he smokes himself up real good before working the bees.
A new trick I just started is smoking the bees 10 minutes before I work on a hive. Then I smoke it 30 seconds before opening it. Even my strongest hives are gentle after following this procedure.
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Good idea. Do you suite up much when doing this?
I did the first time I tried it on my agressive hive then found out that I did not need it. I took that hive apart last weekend, to split it, with no suit and they were as calm as the rest of my hives.
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« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2017, 09:10:17 AM »
Part of JP trick is he smokes himself up real good before working the bees.
A new trick I just started is smoking the bees 10 minutes before I work on a hive. Then I smoke it 30 seconds before opening it. Even my strongest hives are gentle after following this procedure.
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Good idea. Do you suite up much when doing this?
I did the first time I tried it on my agressive hive then found out that I did not need it. I took that hive apart last weekend, to split it, with no suit and they were as calm as the rest of my hives.
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Interesting stuff. I hope to never have very aggressive hives but good to know if I do.

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« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2017, 09:27:10 AM »
I find that bees can sting through leather.  I simply put on 3 pairs of  5 ml nitrile and not sure if they can't get a grip or it is adequate, but I don't get the stings and I can feel things like bees bumping.  So again, the cheapest works best for me.  Just have to be careful the sleeves cover them well.
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« Reply #36 on: April 21, 2017, 01:04:11 AM »
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I noticed that a light bit of smoke was coming out of smoker and wafting across the top of the hive.

Perfect,  How do you train the smoke?  I put mine on the hive next to the one I am working and it ignores the hive I am working on and goes right in my eyes or nose.  Then I get mad and move it ten ft away.  The smoke is more annoying then the stings.

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« Reply #37 on: April 25, 2017, 11:52:57 PM »
I might just get some good goat skin gloves. I am not allergic to stings but don't particularly like them either. I would just rather protect my hands.
Yes, me too.  I prefer working without gloves, but I don't like getting stung.  I try not to use them, but think I will more often than I do.
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« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2017, 11:32:05 AM »
I might just get some good goat skin gloves. I am not allergic to stings but don't particularly like them either. I would just rather protect my hands.
Yes, me too.  I prefer working without gloves, but I don't like getting stung.  I try not to use them, but think I will more often than I do.

Yeah stings are no fun. I wear gloves because I don't like getting stung/

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« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2017, 04:16:04 AM »
Yesterday I did a full inspection, added a frame and a top feeder without protection and was very comfortable and so were the ladies.
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