You missread my intent. Maby the way it was wrote caused that, maby not. What my above statement said if you use both of the first sentences together is. You will pay taxes instead of insurance premiums. You will not have insurance premiums as you wont have medical insurance because you already have it through taxes. getting rid of insurance middle man save four hundred billion a year. That is differrent then how you are taking what I wrote to mean.
I did not say no compatition would make medical care go up in my post. I did not take a position on that. What I did take a position on was that GB pays $2000 per person for coverage that you indicated was bad coverage. That we pay $5000 for out insurance. I then pointed out if $3000 was paid, we would still be cheaper then we are now. The point in that was that you said the GB people have to bring their own tylonol when they went to see their doctor. And I say that I bet if they were paying $3000 in GB that the extra money would probly pay for tylonol and take away your argument on how bad their system is and would still be $2000 cheaper then where we are today.
I do not think you are countering what I am saying but more just changing what I am saying to make you case.
I do understand your position though and had the same position back in the eighties when it came up under clinton. I just know more and feel differrently now due to where we are and seeing the insurance doing the thing to people that was used a a scare tactic to make us not want single payer. Now I just think of the insurance providers as an unneeded third wheel that is taking money that could be put to better use.
Could and do bad things happen with any system or program, Yes, just like they happend before health care even became an issue. Poeple take from any system if they can enrich themselve and so no matter what direction we go, there will allways be problims with it that need addressed. I don't trust the government or the insurance man.