Thanks again,
Kev, the bees did have a frame for a day to expel in.
The frames they have now have no wax formation, just the plastic insert, so the only thing they can do is make brood comb.
There is no larvae to feed. They were all BBq yesterday. I am going to try and pick up two frames with some brood later in the week.
I did treat the bees while they were in the infected box. I can treat them again later in the week. I am planning on a spy on thursday. They have been messed with about every day, and the hornets are causing havoc too. Nothing like ornery bees, and a tired keeper.
I am feeding 1;1,(outside the hive, so the wasps can have some too, grrrr) I read somewhere thats the formula to push wax. I am going to read through the article you posted, and have it up now for reading. :)
imbabkpr, All the frames were in some kind of disaray, almost black, some developing wax moth,some partly melted, mouse damamge, no tight brood pattern, What did I miss...and very very few healthy cells. It was maybe a bad time of year to have to do this, but the frames needed to go by next year anyway.
I have learned TONS, and paid nothing but some brood frames and a little elbow grease. (so far) :)
rdy-b
I did contact the NM state apiary inspector today, and the retired NM state apiary inspector. Very interesting and somewhat conflicting conversations.
The current inspector said I have done all the right things. Claims the scorching does the trick.His comment on the bees, is they can carry the spores on their body for ???? He didn't know. He did not ask to come out and examine the hives and was very helpful. Referred me back to the former inspector, stating this man had done some research in this area.
Former inspector, as he had said to me before, believes genetics play a big part in this. Hygienic bees will clean the frames including the scale and keep the ABF under control.
The ABF is a natural spore that is in the environment, and the weak, or overwhelmed will develop the problems.
I am planning on purchasing a nuc from him next year. He does not treat his bees with antibiotics.
Interesting.
Thank you for all your help everyone.
I will keep you all updated.