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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => HONEYBEE REMOVAL => Topic started by: JP on March 12, 2010, 10:15:56 pm

Title: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: JP on March 12, 2010, 10:15:56 pm
First hive I removed last Saturday, small, absolutely no stores & nothing new coming in, bees on brink of starvation. Since then bees happy and being fed, pollen coming in.

2nd I removed yesterday evening, external colony, that I looked at in January. They have grown, hardly any stores, lots of gentle bees, sucking down the feed. Had approximately 12-14 queen cups.

Today, gentle colony, decent bit of bees, some stores, two queen cups.

Our bees are still a week to ten days from swarming, 3 -3 and a half weeks behind schedule.

The bright side is our weather has warmed up and white clover is blooming, perhaps some willow, blackberry soon.

Pics: http://picasaweb.google.com/112138792165178452970/March122010# (http://picasaweb.google.com/112138792165178452970/March122010#)


...JP
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: hardwood on March 12, 2010, 11:08:47 pm
Once again Jp "you da man!". I'll be doing a tough one on Sunday. Real brick over wood frame....have to go in through the indoor (tiled) shower just at a "t" in the framing. I'll be thinking the whole time...WWJPD. :-D

Scott
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: JP on March 12, 2010, 11:14:44 pm
Once again Jp "you da man!". I'll be doing a tough one on Sunday. Real brick over wood frame....have to go in through the indoor (tiled) shower just at a "t" in the framing. I'll be thinking the whole time...WWJPD. :-D

Scott

I'll tell you what I'd be doing, hiding!  :-D

That sounds like an aweful one Scott, good luck and please post lots of pictures.


...JP
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: hardwood on March 12, 2010, 11:20:38 pm
I'll try to get some pics if I can, but I've got the feeling I'll be up to my elbows in "sticky"...gotta love it!

Scott
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: Sparky on March 12, 2010, 11:36:15 pm
Great Pics. JP. Looks like you are a busy man already. The outside colony that was in the bush had some size to the combs and amount of bees. Looked like the type from the tropical regions of the world.
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: schawee on March 12, 2010, 11:53:46 pm
nice pics,will be doing my first cutout at my sister in-laws house.bees going in where the bricks meet the siding (2 story home).do you have any tips........
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: annette on March 13, 2010, 12:14:33 am
You always have these awesome photos of the queen that I find amazing. You make it look so, so easy JP

Thanks once again for sharing
Annette
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: JP on March 13, 2010, 12:21:28 am
nice pics,will be doing my first cutout at my sister in-laws house.bees going in where the bricks meet the siding (2 story home).do you have any tips........

Bees most likely are in between the two floors. You have three choices on how to go about this, but before you do anything, verify exactly where the colony indeed is located.

1) From the outside: Have to remove siding to get to band board, then cut band board section between joists. Potential problem depending on how long they've been there is the possibility that comb sections are further in than you can reach.

2) Cut ceiling. If possible cut opening further over than where bees are to allow you to detach comb sections without honey dripping all over you. Iddee loves this method, not me.  ;)

3) From above. If carpet over plywood, pull carpet back and cut plywood on ceiling joists. Invert plywood. Can get a little messy but at least honey is not dripping down on you! This is my preferred method, but to each his own.

If you can 100% verify size of colony, option 1 may be a pretty good option, but remember, if it extends further into the room than you can extend, you will have to go in and open ceiling or floor as well, and that would indeed suck. Been there.

And have fun and don't be in a rush.


...JP
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: Kathyp on March 13, 2010, 12:46:20 am
and take extra stuff.  better to many frames and boxes than not enough.  have you looked at list of  things to take?
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: JP on March 13, 2010, 01:09:12 am
and take extra stuff.  better to many frames and boxes than not enough.  have you looked at list of  things to take?

Yes, bring every tool you own and cram them all in a trailer or better yet a van!


...JP
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: iddee on March 13, 2010, 08:42:07 am
JP's right. I like #2. To each his own. All 3 work and each cutout you do will require a different approach. The main thing is to get them out the easiest and cleanest way you can find, with the least upset.

JP, Nice pics. I guess spring has sprung in LA. I'm jealous.
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: JP on March 13, 2010, 09:51:46 am
Iddee, I really, really hope spring is here. I believe it is, but you never know with this global warming thing right?  :-D


...JP
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: Natalie on March 13, 2010, 09:35:03 pm
Awesome Jp! You are off and running now, its that time of year so we will only hear from jp in between all his cutouts. :-D
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: poka-bee on March 13, 2010, 11:11:19 pm
JP still the Swarm King!  Great pics as usual.  I like the ones with their little butts in the air fanning. I can't even imagine how ugly it would be if I was cutting things apart...You are so tidy!  Keep it up, the season is just starting.

Jody
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: Highlandsfreedom on March 13, 2010, 11:26:37 pm
I love the pic's as well you take great photos I cant wait till its bee time up here in Colorado!!!!
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: JP on March 14, 2010, 07:02:27 am
I love the pic's as well you take great photos I cant wait till its bee time up here in Colorado!!!!

Hey, thanks alot, but the camera I have does all the work! Good to see you back on and posting.

Have a great season!


...JP
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: DayValleyDahlias on March 14, 2010, 12:08:29 pm
JP, you are still the Swarm King!
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: JP on March 14, 2010, 02:10:38 pm
Well bust my britches Jody and Sharon showing up on this thread, haven't seen y'all in a while, glad to see you. I wonder if that other lady will show up too. That would certainly make it official that the season is truly here!

You know who I'm speaking of right?

Hint: Rocks and Whoppo.

I don't know, she's pretty incognito these days!


...JP  ;)
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: Irwin on March 14, 2010, 03:47:16 pm
Nice pic's JP but come on let's see a video of the Swarm king at work :-D
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: JP on March 14, 2010, 03:51:07 pm
Nice pic's JP but come on let's see a video of the Swarm king at work :-D

Haven't sprung for the new camera just yet, but I will be getting it soon! If you make one of you riding the pink bycycle it will definitely give me incentive.

Now if you make one with beer cans stuck to your head riding the pink bycycle, I will have no choice but to go out and get one that day!


...JP
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: Irwin on March 14, 2010, 04:00:38 pm
Nice pic's JP but come on let's see a video of the Swarm king at work :-D

Haven't sprung for the new camera just yet, but I will be getting it soon! If you make one of you riding the pink bycycle it will definitely give me incentive.

Now if you make one with beer cans stuck to your head riding the pink bycycle, I will have no choice but to go out and get one that day!


...JP
Get out your wallet buddy. a shower and I'm off to shoot a video with my new tripod :shock: :-D :-P
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: Irwin on March 14, 2010, 06:43:48 pm
Done and done JP check out video and text chat :-D
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: JP on March 14, 2010, 06:59:06 pm
Done and done JP check out video and text chat :-D

Do I have to go get the camera today or will you be so kind to allow me to get it next week?

But a deal is a deal & I will keep my word albeit I will be in the doghouse with the wife, explaining to her why I had to buy it today. All because I promised Irwin if he mad a video of himself riding his grandaughter's pink bicycle (and it better have training wheels on it btw & you better be ringing the bell (although I didn't say you had to so scratch that, would be a nice bonus though) I would.

Oh well, gonna look, wait, if I don't see it yet, it doesn't really exist yet to me now does it?  :idunno:  :cheer:


...JP
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: Highlandsfreedom on March 15, 2010, 01:55:37 am
Yah I have been out of pocket with work for awhile.  We are building a new DC down around Dallas and have been busy with that it will be hectic for a while till we get moved down there but I will like to be home again with all our family.
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: Irwin on March 15, 2010, 09:39:41 am
Done and done JP check out video and text chat :-D
Do I have to go get the camera today or will you be so kind to allow me to get it next week?

But a deal is a deal & I will keep my word albeit I will be in the doghouse with the wife, explaining to her why I had to buy it today. All because I promised Irwin if he mad a video of himself riding his grandaughter's pink bicycle (and it better have training wheels on it btw & you better be ringing the bell (although I didn't say you had to so scratch that, would be a nice bonus though) I would.

Oh well, gonna look, wait, if I don't see it yet, it doesn't really exist yet to me now does it?  :idunno:  :cheer:


...JP
OK you got till next week BUT no longer :evil: :-D
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: JP on March 15, 2010, 10:53:54 am
Thanks Irwin! BTW, loved the video, but that bike is not as pink as I thought. Next time could you ring the bell a little? That would really kill me.  :-D


...JP
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: specialkayme on March 15, 2010, 12:55:52 pm
I guess spring has sprung in LA. I'm jealous.

I second that.
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: Boom Buzz on March 16, 2010, 12:19:33 pm
Thanks for sharing JP.

So very orderly.
On the couple of cutouts I've done it has been very chaotic.  The pics give me a good visual of how calm and orderly it can be.
Something to shoot for.

John
Title: Re: 3 Removals, One Very Cool External Colony-March 12, 2010
Post by: JP on March 16, 2010, 04:30:57 pm
Thanks for sharing JP.

So very orderly.
On the couple of cutouts I've done it has been very chaotic.  The pics give me a good visual of how calm and orderly it can be.
Something to shoot for.

John

Could be that I move at a snail's pace on my cutouts. I know people who want to be in and out within three hours. They lack the patience to see things through.

I've done some that took twelve hours of a single day to complete. I've gone back on some over a two day period, a few took three days.

IMO, you just can't be in a rush when you're on "Bee Time".

I appreciate the Kudos but mainly its a little me, a lot of patience and the right tools for the job.


...JP