Laurence, welcome to our forum, great you found us, but come back, you have only made 1 post. We love new members. We love to listen to the tales, stories and experiences that are shared between us all. You have done well for your bees to not take off any honey, leaving that for them to live on during the winter. Stick around. Have that most wonderful day, to love, live, share, with greatest of health. Cindi