Atually, I don't remember anymore. :-D I did find a forum that has been very helpful and provided me with help on whatever my crisis was that day (I'm taking a class at the technical college and had an assignment due the next morning). This forum here has been my first venture into the world of forumdom and I just didn't think about looking for a photoshop forum. As for not asking the question, if nobody here has a photoshop background, why write a book about what I couldn't get to work, what it was supposed to do, what it was doing instead, etc etc. I based that on my experience when I posted a real question here back in July about Dreamweaver and got an answer in October.