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Re: Varroa treatment using formic or oxalic acid, without usin a fumigater
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2016, 12:02:55 pm »
gww, I do think that can be disabled. It's the same when it says 'sent from my iphone'. I deleted that on mine. You can go into settings, then mail, contacts, etc, then find signature. The companies put that text as standard but you can erase or change it.
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Re: Varroa treatment using formic or oxalic acid, without usin a fumigater
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2016, 03:48:17 pm »
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I am low tech and still don't have a smart phone or data plan.  I was just curious if it could be dissabled cause it would bug me if I ever get one.  Thanks for answering my off topic question.
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Re: Varroa treatment using formic or oxalic acid, without usin a fumigater
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2016, 10:04:06 pm »
So, are you putting this thing on the top of the hive inside and empty super?

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Re: Varroa treatment using formic or oxalic acid, without usin a fumigater
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2016, 08:40:08 pm »
use empty super for spacer and place vaporizer inside empty super and directly on brood chamber frames. Note the use of 11 frame brood chamber in this example.
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Re: Varroa treatment using formic or oxalic acid, without usin a fumigater
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2016, 09:16:18 am »
Can i treat with a syringe oxalic or formic acid with sugar syrup, i saw a video on the internet where one used a syringe and sprayed formic AZ cid inbetween frames over the bees,  what consantrate of formic acid to use then ? And is it affective?

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Re: Varroa treatment using formic or oxalic acid, without usin a fumigater
« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2016, 01:37:50 pm »
Dribble method has not proved to be as effective, but you can read a lot about it on Randy Oliver's website.  I think it's called Scientific Beekeeping.  There's a lot of good info about a lot of things on his website.  Read everything there and on Michael Bush's website and you'll have a pretty good education about bees and beekeeping.
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Re: Varroa treatment using formic or oxalic acid, without usin a fumigater
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2016, 06:33:42 pm »
So, are you putting this thing on the top of the hive inside and empty super?

yes and then put cover back on hive
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Re: Varroa treatment using formic or oxalic acid, without usin a fumigater
« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2016, 07:48:47 pm »
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Thanks brother though you didn't tell me about feral bees, I'm sorry for my complain, you might be busy, thanks a lot, I'll see this Link

No I just tried to answer your original question.  I have an off subject question that I have been dieing to ask somebody.  Where all the post end with  "Sent from my D6502 using Tapatalk"  Can this funtion be dissabled or is everyone required to send out advertisements that use one of these phones.  I would hate to pay for the privilage to advertise for some one.  I am not from the modern era and have no beef but am curious.  I think iddee got to your feral question pretty good.
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I think mine makes the signature too?  i use a free app "tapatalk"  on my phone. Given the format and screen size it beats the tar out of using the website. Easy to post pics too, one step. If it adds a sig to "advertise" I don't have a problem, unless you find it very offensive?

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Re: Varroa treatment using formic or oxalic acid, without usin a fumigater
« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2016, 09:23:53 pm »
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If it adds a sig to "advertise" I don't have a problem, unless you find it very offensive?
No it doesn't offend me too bad.  I was mostly just curious.  If I had it I would probly disable it if I was smart enough to disable it but I don't really care.  It is like everything else, I mostly just wanted to know what the deal is.  Who knows, I might move into the future someday and like to know how things work.
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Re: Varroa treatment using formic or oxalic acid, without usin a fumigater
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2016, 09:41:04 pm »
I have had great success treating 34 colonies with attached device
an 8oz can with one end and contents removed,
church key or pocket knife,
wide mouth Mason jar lid,
two 1/4" x 2-1/2" dowels,
wood stilt 2" tall by 1-1/2" x 1-1/2" square,
beeswax tea-light candle,
doses of OA.
 Punch 2 holes in can with church key, see attached for locations, place 2" x 1/4" spacers inside of mason jar lid
(i hot glued my kits), see attached for locations, those spacers provide a gap for an oxygen intake, place stilt 2" tall by 1-1/2" x 1-1/2" in center of mason jar lid (hot glue), see attached, place tea-light candle on stilt.
Apply OA dose to top of can, light candle, place can on top of candle, cover hive and seal. As it will take a  minute or so for the burner to reach vaporization temperature one will have time seal hive and leave area and/or move upwind to the next hive.
One may use an empty Super for the shim allowing a space for the placement of vaporizer unit in the hive.
 Notes 315 degrees (F) to vaporize OA. 1) wick needs to be cut longer, 3/8" +, than usual as we are not interested in
efficiently we want heat. 2) flame tip needs to be within apx 1/4" of can's surface with that spacers under the
candle, penny etc, may be necessary to tweak height of the candle for proper temperature at burner as candle burns down. 
***Please always keep in mind one does not want to inhale any Oxalic Acid (OA) fumes***                                 
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Re: Varroa treatment using formic or oxalic acid, without usin a fumigater
« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2016, 12:50:38 am »
also great for locating hives in walls before doing removals.


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Re: Varroa treatment using formic or oxalic acid, without usin a fumigater
« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2016, 09:06:15 pm »
So, are you putting this thing on the top of the hive inside and empty super?

yes and then put cover back on hive

I thought that the vapor was supposed to rise through the bottom of the hive and be fanned upwards and through the upper boxes by the bees. How does the vapor get down to the bottom of the hive with this method?

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Re: Varroa treatment using formic or oxalic acid, without usin a fumigater
« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2016, 09:45:33 pm »
also great for locating hives in walls before doing removals.


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and significantly cheaper than thermal imagery camera
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Re: Varroa treatment using formic or oxalic acid, without usin a fumigater
« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2016, 09:55:01 pm »
So, are you putting this thing on the top of the hive inside and empty super?

yes and then put cover back on hive

I thought that the vapor was supposed to rise through the bottom of the hive and be fanned upwards and through the upper boxes by the bees. How does the vapor get down to the bottom of the hive with this method?


a vapor/gas that moves throughout the hive ( block entrance and screened bottom board if used also note OA may have a negative effect on the average screen in a bottom board.
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Re: Varroa treatment using formic or oxalic acid, without usin a fumigater
« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2016, 08:10:11 am »
I read somewhere that once the OA was in the hive the bees started fanning to get it out. With the hive shut up all it did was circulate through the hive, thus covering more area.
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