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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => RAPID BEEYARD GROWTH => Topic started by: ballardbee on January 30, 2009, 10:45:41 pm

Title: moving hives solo
Post by: ballardbee on January 30, 2009, 10:45:41 pm
Does anyne have any great suggestions/ideas on how to move hives by yourself.
Is there any type of dolly/handtruck out there for this industry?
Title: Re: moving hives solo
Post by: pdmattox on January 30, 2009, 10:53:41 pm
You can modify a regular hand truck or get a boom for your pick up. I started out by moving them all by hand and what a pain it is.
Title: Re: moving hives solo
Post by: JP on January 30, 2009, 10:57:20 pm
I think the problem is going to be keeping them from tilting with any kind of handtruck. These work great but take two people. https://www.dadant.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=193


...JP
Title: Re: moving hives solo
Post by: pdmattox on January 30, 2009, 11:06:41 pm
Tilting from side to side may be bad but what about turning them the other way where they tilt front to back? I have one of those from dadant and think they are a valuble tool to have but you need a helper then.
Title: Re: moving hives solo
Post by: rdy-b on January 30, 2009, 11:38:13 pm
I have wondered about this hand truck- :-\ but i think with pallets they would have to be spaced futher than i keep them -looks cooll though -RDY-B
Title: Re: moving hives solo
Post by: Brian D. Bray on January 31, 2009, 09:47:50 pm
I installed a hydralic hoist on the back of my pickup.  since I am physically challenged these days I needed something that would let me load a lot of things by myself.  The hoist is great I can left a hive of bees using a couple of straps, 55 gal barrels, hay bales, etc with it.  Cost me less than $75.00 on sale at HFT.  I'm now getting an electric winch so I can use it and the hoist to yard and load.  I figure on using it to butcher animals.  I will be ableto kill, lift, slaughter, and haul any animal up to the 1000lbs.

It's amazing what 1 person can do with a 4X4 pickup and the right tools.  My pickup is also my tractor.
Title: Re: moving hives solo
Post by: JP on January 31, 2009, 09:52:12 pm
Forgot about that hoist from HFTs, great idea. Brian, what would you be slaughtering that would weigh 1000 lbs?


...JP
Title: Re: moving hives solo
Post by: rdy-b on January 31, 2009, 10:43:54 pm
I saw a pic from a man who had the hoist set up so it would go into his recever for trailer hitch -could be removed in seconds -it also gave better swing for the hoist being in the center- 8-) RDY-B
Title: Re: moving hives solo
Post by: Brian D. Bray on January 31, 2009, 11:11:09 pm
Forgot about that hoist from HFTs, great idea. Brian, what would you be slaughtering that would weigh 1000 lbs?


...JP


Can you say MOO?  Hi:  My neighbor has a cow that weighs over 2000 lbs.  Fy:  Sounds like a lot of bull to me.

I saw a pic from a man who had the hoist set up so it would go into his recever for trailer hitch -could be removed in seconds -it also gave better swing for the hoist being in the center- 8-) RDY-B

I have my hoist set just behind the passenger side wheel well.  I'm setting up my winch so I can slip it into the Class 4 hitch I have on the back of the truck.  That way I can use them both at the same time, either on the same job or doing different parts of different jobs.
Title: Re: moving hives solo
Post by: IABeeMan on February 16, 2009, 10:03:00 pm
 My Dad moves several hives back home solo. He bought a pick up corner hoist at the local farm and ranch store. The hoist is mounted in the rear corner of his pick up and has a small crank similar to the type on the tongue of a boat trailer. the hole unit weighs no more than maybe 20-30 lbs. Most of his hives are on small pallets not much bigger than the hive itself. to make these pallets he simply cut 2-3 runners of of a regular pallet. To keep the hive balanced while lifting he made a set of small forks with a C type brace so that the lifting point is centered above the hive. If you have seen the trucks that load sheetrock you know what I am talking about. His entire set up cost him about $100 and works extrememly well. I would love to post a pic of it but I am a newbee so it wont load the pics.
Title: Re: moving hives solo
Post by: IABeeMan on February 16, 2009, 10:08:33 pm
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Hopefully this crude drawing helps picture what I am talking about. It is made out of 2x2 in square tubing and has 4 or 5 diff attaching points along the top rail (which is centered between the bottom forks) to enable you to balance the weight of different size and weight of hives.
Title: Re: moving hives solo
Post by: TwT on February 17, 2009, 06:44:21 am
I am poor and still use the old ruff way, I ratchet strap each of my hives to hold them together (when moving they are usually double deep or deep and medium) , pick them up and set on trailer, strap all down and go. oh and the night before I move them I will screen the entrances, keeps the flying down when moving them.
Title: Re: moving hives solo
Post by: justgojumpit on February 17, 2009, 06:04:44 pm
You should also be able to make some type of a wood frame for the back of your truck so your can use a pully system.  just loop the rope back and forth through a few pullies to multiply your strength.

justgojumpit
Title: Re: moving hives solo
Post by: rdy-b on February 18, 2009, 12:01:03 am
I have wondered about this hand truck- :-\ but i think with pallets they would have to be spaced futher than i keep them -looks cooll though -RDY-B
http://www.mannlakeltd.com/ProductDetail.asp?idproduct=1163&idCategory=15
Title: Re: moving hives solo
Post by: Brian D. Bray on February 18, 2009, 12:22:23 am
I have wondered about this hand truck- :-\ but i think with pallets they would have to be spaced futher than i keep them -looks cooll though -RDY-B
http://www.mannlakeltd.com/ProductDetail.asp?idproduct=1163&idCategory=15

Nice if you have that kind of money to waste...I mean spare.   :-D
Title: Re: moving hives solo
Post by: soilserf40 on February 18, 2009, 10:10:37 am
I find that I must relocate a couple of hives from there present location asap.

The question is:  the move requires a 5 hour trip with hives in the back of a pickup truck with the temp.

ranging from 44 to 54 degrees. Do you think the bees can handle this ?    Thanks!
Title: Re: moving hives solo
Post by: jdpro5010 on February 18, 2009, 12:28:58 pm
I would say that you could without too much trouble.  Just do your best not to bounce around a whole lot so that you do not break the cluster.
Title: Re: moving hives solo
Post by: jsmob on February 18, 2009, 02:02:01 pm
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Does anyne have any great suggestions/ideas on how to move hives by yourself.
Is there any type of dolly/handtruck out there for this industry?

Try this link. http://bushfarms.com/beescarts.htm (http://bushfarms.com/beescarts.htm)
Title: Re: moving hives solo
Post by: Michael Bush on February 18, 2009, 07:11:54 pm
You can get a dolly, or you can just move them a box at a time on a nice day and wait until dark for them to settle down:

http://www.bushfarms.com/beesmoving.htm#100yards
Title: Re: moving hives solo
Post by: Brian D. Bray on February 18, 2009, 10:39:25 pm
I find that I must relocate a couple of hives from there present location asap.

The question is:  the move requires a 5 hour trip with hives in the back of a pickup truck with the temp.

ranging from 44 to 54 degrees. Do you think the bees can handle this ?    Thanks!

I've move hives about 300 miles without a problem, the commercial beekeeper's move them by the hundreds and a lot further than that, you should be okay.
Title: Re: moving hives solo
Post by: BeeHopper on February 19, 2009, 09:26:54 am
I installed a hydraulic hoist on the back of my pickup.  since I am physically challenged these days I needed something that would let me load a lot of things by myself.  The hoist is great I can left a hive of bees using a couple of straps, 55 gal barrels, hay bales, etc with it.  Cost me less than $75.00 on sale at HFT.  I'm now getting an electric winch so I can use it and the hoist to yard and load.  I figure on using it to butcher animals.  I will be able to kill, lift, slaughter, and haul any animal up to the 1000lbs.

It's amazing what 1 person can do with a 4X4 pickup and the right tools.  My pickup is also my tractor.


Brian,

You certainly have an excellent Attitude  :-D
Title: Re: moving hives solo
Post by: BeeHopper on February 19, 2009, 09:28:50 am
Does anyne have any great suggestions/ideas on how to move hives by yourself.
Is there any type of dolly/handtruck out there for this industry?


Don't be shy, find another Beek in your area to help you out  :)
Title: Re: moving hives solo
Post by: Chef Isaac on March 25, 2009, 12:29:12 am
my back is hurting just reading this thread! :)

Seriously, if you need help, there are enough beekeepers in the area to help you out.