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Re: Saftey warning signs or not?
« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2008, 02:08:00 pm »
"Only the Sith deal in absolutes."

That answer is probably somewhere in between.  Some of us have situations where a sign is warranted and proper.  Others don't have those requirements.  No use faulting someone for wanting to do the right thing.  That'd be like calling someone names for praying.

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Re: Saftey warning signs or not?
« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2008, 02:12:02 pm »
well....that's way to rational a response for this fun converstation....but, you are probably right.  there are probably some requirements for some people.  and some people do feel the urge to 'be responsible'.
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Re: Saftey warning signs or not?
« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2008, 03:18:27 pm »
You know, there's a flipside to all of this...


If one of your bees is in your neighbor's yard, and the neighbor or his children get stung, then your bee will die as a result of stinging them, right?


So sue your neighbor for planting flowers in his or her yard, failing to secure aforementioned flowers, and thereby creating an attractive nuisance which led a poor innocent honeybee to his death - causing you significant emotional pain, and major financial losses.
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Re: Saftey warning signs or not?
« Reply #43 on: August 12, 2008, 04:09:33 pm »
Why waste words?  ;)
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Re: Saftey warning signs or not?
« Reply #44 on: August 12, 2008, 09:45:44 pm »
Local regulations notwithstanding, if I had beehives located at a "pick-your-own" farm, I'd put signs up. People could wander too close without noticing the hives, just looking around...I've seen plenty of oblivious people. It could also be informative to the curious, enticing them to look but not get too close. I'm not putting them in my backyard; I have .19 acres, both my next door neighbors know I have bees and think it's cool. No one goes into my backyard except me and my wife. I have some hives on some farms, and I don't put signs there, either. The farmer knows they are there, and no one else goes there.

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Re: Saftey warning signs or not?
« Reply #45 on: August 12, 2008, 09:57:32 pm »
Why waste words?  ;)

There's no need to point out that they can sting... again, all you have to post is 'bees'.  That's all I'm going to post.  That way no one will get the idea that they are dangerous, and people can be aware of them so they can keep their distance if they so choose.

I have to conceide that different situations require different measures.  There is at least one member on here who lives in a county in which it's illegal to keep bees, and in that case I certainly wouldn't put up signs (I'd still keep the bees by the way).  Or if your bees are well behind a fenced in area, I would have to agree that there's no need to post anything.  Or if you've got a lot of property with no trespassing signs up, and the hives are not near the property line, then I wouldn't put up signs in hopes that the bees WOULD sting trespassers.

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Re: Saftey warning signs or not?
« Reply #46 on: August 13, 2008, 12:31:31 am »
I put up one of the generic signs near the rear side of a beeyard facing the neighbor's property line, this beeyard is on my fathers land so I wanted to be cautious. And I would agree, the signs, along with the fact that they can visibly see the hives seems to make the neighbors weary. I wish I hadn't put it up, but now that it's done, I feel like taking them down now would be even more of a liability. If you don't already have them up, I would suggest a privacy fence. From my experience the neighbors don't seem to mind as much if they are not constantly reminded that they are there.

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Re: Saftey warning signs or not?
« Reply #47 on: August 13, 2008, 01:57:01 am »
Now here is a question....

What if you don't have bees but someone gets stung on your property and has a really bad reaction?

Perhaps everyone should put up signs as bees could bee any where. My first sting was at age five in my Aunt's back yard. They were not beekeepers. Who knows where the bee came from.
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Re: Saftey warning signs or not?
« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2008, 06:37:21 am »
To those of you who don't want to put up signs... if you truely believed that there wasn't anything wrong with keeping bees, why wouldn't you be willing to let others know you're doing it?

Anyone ever drive by a pasture or a gate over dirt track into the woods and see the sign that says "POSTED No hunting or fishing" ? You can see why someone would want to hunt either in the field or the woods. I always say to myself. "Ohh, they have a lake back there?? wonder if I know the owner, wonder what the lake looks like, wonder if there are any fish."

I fish maybe once a year but I always wish I could go more.  Those signs always make me wonder why they put a no fishing sign when you can't see a pond.

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Re: Saftey warning signs or not?
« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2008, 09:31:44 am »
To those of you who don't want to put up signs... if you truely believed that there wasn't anything wrong with keeping bees, why wouldn't you be willing to let others know you're doing it?

 I just think it's anyones business what I'm doing on my property long as i'm not doing anything illegal to damage their property. My bees are registered because the law says they have to be, i don't sell honey, i don't remove swarms from houses and i'm not interested in buying anyones used hives, they are about 400 yds from anyones property so in my case, signs are unneccessary. i'm sure one of my labs would nip anyone in the rearend before they got near the hives anyway, they set out there and watch the bees more than i do. everyone that needs to know that i have bees knows it.

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Re: Saftey warning signs or not?
« Reply #50 on: August 19, 2019, 06:01:19 pm »
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« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2019, 06:08:17 pm »
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Re: Saftey warning signs or not?
« Reply #52 on: August 20, 2019, 05:13:42 pm »
"Never ask a barber if you need a haircut."

A search of this or other beek forums will result in many instances of people that put up signs or warned their neighbors that they were going to get a beehive, with the result that neighbors started complaining about stings even before the hive was acquired.

My $.02,  what they don't know won't hurt them,  but what they think they know will get you blamed for every yellow jacket sting in the neighborhood.
Follow your local ordinances and keep a low profile.  Every Christmas when I take around my little gift of honey to the neighbors, half of them say "Oh, I didn't know you had bees."




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Re: Saftey warning signs or not?
« Reply #53 on: August 20, 2019, 11:28:57 pm »
"Never ask a barber if you need a haircut."

A search of this or other beek forums will result in many instances of people that put up signs or warned their neighbors that they were going to get a beehive, with the result that neighbors started complaining about stings even before the hive was acquired.

My $.02,  what they don't know won't hurt them,  but what they think they know will get you blamed for every yellow jacket sting in the neighborhood.
Follow your local ordinances and keep a low profile.  Every Christmas when I take around my little gift of honey to the neighbors, half of them say "Oh, I didn't know you had bees."

Yep, out of sight, out of mind.
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Re: Saftey warning signs or not?
« Reply #54 on: August 21, 2019, 06:52:19 pm »
I'm thinking of putting up a sign like this on the gate to the property I've contracted for an apiary.  I know two things.  First, people drive down that road to have a picnic and, second, the bees I plan to put there next year are feral bees from South Texas of a known heritage.

WARNING
Africanized Bees
Not responsible for trespassers that die a horrible death
From anaphylactic shock due to multiple bee stings.

May need to post it in Spanish, too.

Dr. Seely reports that bees in Upstate New York have African genes.  I doubt that a single bee in North America does not have African genes in some measure.  Everyone has heard of killer African bees.
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« Reply #55 on: August 21, 2019, 11:45:22 pm »
I'm thinking of putting up a sign like this on the gate to the property I've contracted for an apiary.  I know two things.  First, people drive down that road to have a picnic and, second, the bees I plan to put there next year are feral bees from South Texas of a known heritage.

WARNING
Africanized Bees
Not responsible for trespassers that die a horrible death
From anaphylactic shock due to multiple bee stings.

May need to post it in Spanish, too.



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Re: Saftey warning signs or not?
« Reply #56 on: August 23, 2019, 09:09:40 am »
"Never ask a barber if you need a haircut."

A search of this or other beek forums will result in many instances of people that put up signs or warned their neighbors that they were going to get a beehive, with the result that neighbors started complaining about stings even before the hive was acquired.

My $.02,  what they don't know won't hurt them,  but what they think they know will get you blamed for every yellow jacket sting in the neighborhood.
Follow your local ordinances and keep a low profile.  Every Christmas when I take around my little gift of honey to the neighbors, half of them say "Oh, I didn't know you had bees."





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Before I got my first hive, I talked to all of the property owners that were up against my property. Everyone was ok except the last one. He went biz-ark on me, threatened to kill me if his wife got stung and has never talked to me since. That was in 2010. If I could do a redo, I would not have told him.
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Re: Saftey warning signs or not?
« Reply #57 on: August 24, 2019, 06:15:43 am »
A lot of the veteran beeks that have been doing it forever, often say they wouldn't advertise and still keep their hives out of sight whenever possible. (I think they mean even if you think you are in the right.)

Personally, my opinion here doesn't count for much; but I want to say that people don't act rationally. They will time and time again, bite the hand that feeds them. I've seen this my whole life. Humans species do this more than animals and its completely bizarre. Just yesterday I tried to help someone and they chewed me out verbally.

Another thing homo sapiens do is they have this irrational tendency to assign value to something based on only its outer appearance at the expense of all other virtues. And they'll even do it when something is pretty but has no virtues at all. (In disputes this can make them completely irrational and unpredictable.)

Homo sapians also likes to assign value to listening to sports idols, entertainment & popular icons, social media idols and so on, and will listen to these people give advise even if such people are drug addicts or good for nothing with brain damage, and put their opinion above people who actually have studied issues out, and use their brain power constantly trying to help people solve problems.

So I hope pointing out these 'species traits' will help you with your homo sapians management aspect of your beekeeping.

:) :) :)

Not being negative here, but just wanted to point out the species traits of the species you are trying to figure out in relation to your hive management behavior. I think the points above, directly affect your decision on signs and advertising your hive locations.

Good luck.

PS; homo sapians don't make very good honey on their own. They have also high robbing tendencies that homo sapians keepers have been trying to breed out for years and never have fully gotten rid of (and some say its increased), and they also require obscene amounts of space for their brood chambers with very slow buildup. But they are pretty good at cockroach and rodent resistance hygienics.

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Re: Saftey warning signs or not?
« Reply #58 on: August 26, 2019, 06:43:30 pm »
My position is never tell the neighbors you are getting bees.  After they notice (and they will eventually) everything they would have imagined has already not happened.  Telling them you are getting bees is like telling them you have a martian in your basement.  It's incomprehensible to them.  They picture millions of stinging insects roaming their yard looking for someone to sting...
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Re: Saftey warning signs or not?
« Reply #59 on: August 27, 2019, 10:47:55 am »
I have warning signs indicating a " Working Honey Bee Yard " for stupid people who don't know what 15 hives and thousands of Bees flying about look like.    :-D

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