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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. => Topic started by: BjornBee on January 10, 2011, 03:47:30 pm
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On the National Honey Bee Day website, we have been running a poll to decide the 2011 theme. I thought it would be neat to add a poll here to see what the members here like.
Thank you for any comments and voting.
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So far there is one clear favorite..... ;)
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Hey, you left out "Marking queens is gay!" That's my vote. :-D
...JP
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:-D
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Hey, you left out "Marking queens is gay!" That's my vote. :-D
...JP
and "Gay Spiders Need Loving too"
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Wow!
What a show of support for others. Alternative themes..... supporting the gay community. And here I was starting to think you guys were not comfortable with your own sexuality. You guys ROCK!
:-D
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I am very comfortable with my own sexuality. :-D
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So far there is one clear favorite..... ;)
Well, not really. Only one third support the top choice. That could mean that 2/3 really hate it. There is a better way to select a consensus choice. It's called the instant runoff, or is known by several other names. The Scottish legislature uses it and I think maybe New Zealand does in some way. North Carolina used this system in the 2010 Appeals Court judges race.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting)
Simple. Just rank the choices. Throw out the one with the fewest first place votes and redistribute the votes of those who chose it first, giving them their second choice. Rinse and repeat until one choice has a majority. This system, while not perfect, is mathematically much better in arriving at the consensus choice.
Q: How do beeks spend their time in the winter? A: Discussing voting systems and Bjorn's sexuality. :-D
Oh God I wish Spring would come!
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I am very comfortable with my own sexuality. :-D
Oh yes....the "first one to cry "it's not my fart" syndrome".... :-D
Usually that is the person most guilty. :shock:
Ps.....Just don't let iddee know..... :-X
:lau:
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Are there any other choices? I didn't really care for any of those mentioned.
...JP
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My choice: Beekeeping is cheaper than Therapy.
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Are there any other choices? I didn't really care for any of those mentioned.
...JP
Well then, put your thinking cap on. We add requests to the list all the time. Last year we had over 50 we started from that were submitted by beekeepers. We then narrowed that number down to 5 at the PennApic fall dinner. That is the five you see listed.
We had such classics as......
I hang out with 50,000 angry females.
Beekeeping: So easy the First Lady can do it!
My bees voted for the old white guy.
Beehive: A Utopian society ruled by women!
Natural Local Honey: Always HFCS Free!
Beekeeping: Better in the NUDE!
Apitherapy: Free healthcare from Nature.
Spread Honey Bees...Not homeowner pesticides.
Anything submitted goes on the list for next year.
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"My Bees are Smarter than Your Honor student"
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I see lots of bumper stickers in your future.
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I will give it some thought, wasn't trying to offend, I just didn't see what I thought to be a good representation of National Honey Bee Day.
...JP
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I like the "one flower at a time" option...fits right in with my biz card "helping the environment one bee at a time".
Scott
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I like the "one flower at a time" option...fits right in with my biz card "helping the environment one bee at a time".
Scott
Yep, that was my choice too. At a time when the world is looking at grand gestures, this makes the point that we.... and the bees.... can improve our world through our own individual efforts.
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I like the "one flower at a time" option...fits right in with my biz card "helping the environment one bee at a time".
I didn't want that one as anytime I hear "saving the earth" or anything else like that I am instantly turned off. To me it's all flash and no bang. It's a platitude with no real substance and has become nothing but a marketing slogan. I don't believe I am saving the earth by keeping and rescuing bees. I do those things though as well as growing a lot of my own vegetables, heavily recycling, planting native saplings, making and setting up dozens of blue bird houses over 30 acres and even regularly picking up trash out of the creek that runs through my back yard, etc. The earth will be here until the sun swallows it in a billion years or so. We're not going to save it. Whether or not we will be around when that happens has yet to be seen.
These are my interpretations and are not meant to impugn anyone who disagrees. I chose "Sustainable agriculture starts with honey bees" but I'm not really in love with that one either to be honest. #1 & #3 sounded like 60's hippie slogans and #4 and #5 I didn't care for. Dang I'm picky... :-P
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Thank you for the comments.
One of the things we look for, is a cross-over meaning that is not just a beekeeper mesage, but one with a broader appeal and understanding from the general public.
It is hard. On one hand, beekeepers themselves may like one theme. But if you were doing a function tailored at non-beekeepers in an educational format, the theme may need to be something else.
We also want one that most bee associations would be able to fit into any presentation they may be doing. One that they can take and present as beekeepers, yet connect with the public.
Personally, I favor those themes that can connect with the general agricultural community. Farmers, gardeners, environmentalists, etc.
I did favor "Spread Honey Bees - Not Homeowner Pesticides!
I wonder how that one would of been voted on if it was a choice.
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Sexuality?????
At 65, what th' heck is that?
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:lau:
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I don't believe I am saving the earth by keeping and rescuing bees. I do those things though as well as growing a lot of my own vegetables, heavily recycling, planting native saplings, making and setting up dozens of blue bird houses over 30 acres and even regularly picking up trash out of the creek that runs through my back yard, etc. The earth will be here until the sun swallows it in a billion years or so. We're not going to save it. Whether or not we will be around when that happens has yet to be seen.
We aren't going to save the Earth in the geological sense, you are right. But whether we are here for much longer depends very much on exactly the sorts of conserving actions you are taking. Thanks for what you are doing . Don't underestimate the importance of what you and many like you are doing every day.
What's wrong with hippie slogans? :-D Ok, maybe they were not very effective, but at least they didn't wantonly destroy the environment for short term profit, like so many of the supposedly serious business people do.
Bjorn, I have a suggestion for you. Since "saving the Earth" is a bit over the top for some folks, what about the following, which combines ideas from the top two choices in your survey.
"Building a sustainable future, one flower at a time."
This takes the general idea that would interest non-beeks and brings it down to the specific bee related formula. Also, I think it impossible to hear this slogan without visualizing bees moving from flower to flower, a very positive image to associate with your function.
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Frameshift,
I like it! :)
Thank you.
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You're very welcome.
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Frameshift, great idea, I like it! Not that I'm the most important one to please but that one works the best in my view.
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Sexuality?????
At 65, what th' heck is that?
Have you considered at your age, you may be doing something wrong iddee? :-D
I vote for FRAMEshifts suggestion: Building a Sustainable Future One Flower At a Time.
thomas
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According to some folks, I'm still looking to do something right. They say it hasn't happened yet.
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Just bumping this so others can see the poll and get a chance to vote.
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According to some folks, I'm still looking to do something right. They say it hasn't happened yet.
I'm in the same boat.
But you know what they say - "Practice makes Perfect".
I do like to practice.
That latest slogan is getting real close. I'm trying to think of one, but it's beginning to hurt.
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How about a little modification of the 1st one.
No Bees
No Food
No You or Me
All Unglued
I couldn't get my clip-art to post so this is it.
This one isn't really original but:
Ask not what Honeybees do for you,
Ask what you can do for the Honeybees.
Hmmm...I think maybe I'll print up some shirts with this one and see how they sell at my booth this season.
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WPG,
Although I think the second one is a slogan most can relate too, we need something that can go on a 3 x 9 bumper sticker with two lines of lettering. So this one may be too long. I do like it for a t-shirt idea.
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Dare To Make a Positive Difference In Our World, Become a Bee Keeper Today!
Or
Improve Your Carbon Footprint, Take Up Bee Keeping Today!
What y'all think?
...JP
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Bees=flowers=food
=America's future
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Save the shrimp...kill a whale today!
Oh wait...this is about bees.
Scott
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:-D
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Dare To Make a Positive Difference In Our World, Become a Bee Keeper Today!
Or
Improve Your Carbon Footprint, Take Up Bee Keeping Today!
What y'all think?
...JP
The first would need to be shortened.
Like....
Make a Positive Difference,
Take up Beekeeping Today!
The second....I personally don't like any use, reference, or suggestion about "carbon footprints".
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Maybe "bee footprints"?
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I guess mine was so bad it didn't even deserve an answer...... Or BJ's mad at me?????
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I guess mine was so bad it didn't even deserve an answer...... Or BJ's mad at me?????
It's not every day that someone requests my input.... :lau:
Never mad at you. ;)
I do have a habit of glancing at the past few posts, and sometimes miss a few along the way.
I think there are many good slogans. Just some are better than others.
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I'm not crazy about any of the choices listed - sorry. but I did see a posting by Scott that read
"Saving the environment - one bee at a time" I think that would be a great saying\theme.
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But Sustainable Agriculture is what we are after with saving the bees.