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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER - TALKS & REPORTS => Topic started by: Understudy on April 04, 2007, 10:42:45 am
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This evening NBC news will do a report on CCD. That airs at 6:30 pm in my area. Check your local listings.
Sincerely,
Brendhan
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Brendhan, you are a walking wonderful source of information. I am going to be watching NBC tonight, I will be checking out the TV schedule today (well, actually my husband will, he is the information gatherer). He loves to read, gather information, sort information. He is the type of guy that if you ask him to do some research on anything, he is the first to get on that band wagon. Have a great day, guy. Cindi
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Cindi,
Thanks, do me a small favor and let me know what they said I had to work late today and missed the evening news.
Sincerely,
Brendhan
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It was the typical news story about CCD. Bees disappearing and know one knows why. About the only thing that really stuck with me was the orchard owner that talked about the bees collecting pollen to make honey :roll: DOAH!!!!!!
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Brendhan. Oh brother!!! I forgot to watch it, I was busy cooking food to take to our daughter's house this weekend and just plain forgot. Well, Robo said it anyways, sounds like it was boring and go figure, that dude thought that they were collecting pollen to make honey, eeeks!!!!! Have a wonderful day. Cindi
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The report was short on substance. The beekeeper used in the report seemed more interested in bloviating than being accurate. Lots of empty hives in the background an no mention or demonstration of the amount of loss. Typical NBC News story--Superficial.
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Brian,
I actually caught the NBC bit while visiting a friend. I generally avoid all media as matter of habit but this was unavoidable. Anyway, you are spot on regarding the lack of substance. But remember: this is not a matter of negligence. It is a perfectly calibrated product that is measured to the attention span of the American audience. One second longer, one ounce more of content and people would be changing the channel.
While I am not necessarily a fan of public radio/television either, it is undisputable that one finds a vastly greater amount of content there. That's why I was curious as to whether anyone had listened to the show on CCD. Apparently it focused on cell phones. Should be interesting to see if anything comes from it however unlikely that may be.
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If its cell phones, the bees are going, going, gone.
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If its cell phones, the bees are going, going, gone.
Man, the whole cell phone thing makes me mad. If cell phones were causing it, then the bees would have been gone over 100 years ago when Marconi made the first radio transmission. That's all cell phones are! Just fancy duplex walkie-talkies! And they put out tiny amounts of radio emmissions. Like 200 mill-watt. Your local AM radio station puts out somewhere around 50,000 watts!!! That's not counting TV stations, ham radio stations, satellite stations, and the millions of other types of radio communications. Cell phones are not the bandit making the bees go away. The sun by it's self puts out radio emmissions a trillion times that of our tiny human radio technology, every second!
I'm not sayin I have the answer to CCD, but I know it's not cell phones. There's no way possible. Unless there are teenagers out there talking on their cells while driving and running all the hives over with their cars.
I know CCD is scary but I think the media has blown it out of proportion once again. I say let's try to be a little more organic and see how things turn out. Playing God has never worked in history past, so why should genetic alteration of food and bees and such be ok?
Sean
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I pick HFCS, pesticides, GMO stuff. The bees are overwhelmed!!! Not that I even know much, but it isn't really too hard to read through all the lines.
There was a post by Dane, I think, that described about the GMO. It was interesting and I should re-read it, somehting also about how insects are forgetting where they live. Hmmm... Best of a beautiful day, great health.
I gonna make so much food on my property, the bees won't even have to go anywhere else to dine, and I know that I don't live close enough to "farmers" that have myriads of orchards to spray crap in, that maybe I won't have the CCD that is afflicting the nations!!!! I have great aspirations of healthy bees this year. Now we won't know til come the fall, but that is my intent. Cindi
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I don't believe its cell phones either. They would have disappeared on the east coast first(or wherever cells first became popular) and the colony collapsing would occur more frequently in congested areas where cells were present, or as someone else pointed out, when radios became popular enough, as oppossed to spots throughout the country. I think its going to be a multitude of sins having an aggregate impact, coupled w/ migratory beekeeping causing stress.
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The Media likes bad news lots of bad news I avoid the media its all bad
kirk-o
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I was wondering.....has anyone else heard that this has happened in the past. I read an article in the Cleveland Plain Dealer that some old timers remember the bees disappearing like this about 40 or so years ago. Could this be one of nature's strange yet amazing cycles? :-\ I just wonder.....
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There were collapses in the 50's after the Korean War and another in the late 60's early 70's. There was no definative answer to the causes then just like now. Only now we have a lot more possible sources of blame, insecticides, pesticides, GMo's, stress from moving, etc.
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If it leads to a ban on cell phones, then I say, lets blame the cell phones!!
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If it leads to a ban on cell phones, then I say, lets blame the cell phones!!
Now that's just plain silly! Ban cell phones? Why? They've become such an important tool today, getting rid of it would be like going back in time. Then everyone would be using CB radios in their cars again like Smokey & The Bandit.. "BREAKER 19 FOR THAT RUBBER DUCKY! YA GOT YER EARS ON.. OVER!" lol
I couldnt imagine doing my job without a cell phone! I'd have to stop and use a pay phone every 10 miles!
Sean
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Sean, Sean, Sean, please. Granted, the cell phone is one of the cleverest, most profitable gimmicks ever created. But one simply has to consider it's degrading effects upon society: the increase in public boorishness, the diefication of banality, radical increase in danger on our highways, etc. And now bees perhaps. Why?
Seriously though, my wife and I run extremely successful businesses, have 3 kids (2 in college), run a farm, coach soccer and lead perfectly contented lives - all without a cell phone. We have opted to resist the herd rush to own yet another toy...and instead we have an amazing freedom.
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I don't even like the land line. You can't give me a cell phone.
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Good man! We are, I fear, a dying breed I'm afraid.
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Unfortunately, so are the bees a dying breed. CCD.
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some one said on the radio when all the honey bees are gone all people and ever thing only has 4 years left Id be kind of woried about it.
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If the bee disappeard off the surface of the globe then man would only have four years left on earth.Quote attributed to Albert Einstien
Here is the problem. There is no real proof he ever said it.
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/einstein/bees.asp (http://www.snopes.com/quotes/einstein/bees.asp)
Sincerely,
Brendhan
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Sean, Sean, Sean, please. Granted, the cell phone is one of the cleverest, most profitable gimmicks ever created. But one simply has to consider it's degrading effects upon society: the increase in public boorishness, the diefication of banality, radical increase in danger on our highways, etc. And now bees perhaps. Why?
Seriously though, my wife and I run extremely successful businesses, have 3 kids (2 in college), run a farm, coach soccer and lead perfectly contented lives - all without a cell phone. We have opted to resist the herd rush to own yet another toy...and instead we have an amazing freedom.
I totally agree with you about the danger of cell's and driving. Might as well have a beer in your hand too. I drive semi and see cell phone crazies every day.
We use the Nextel radio cell system for our job and we'd be totally lost without it. Sure, I could use a payphone but that would kill TONS of time. I've had countless tire blow outs and breakdowns all across the country driving truck. Without a cell phone, I would have been at the mercy of local hillbillys. Flagging down help at 3am on some back road in Montanna could be very dangerous these days.
Plus with internet access on my phone I can access this messageboard while waiting to load my truck. :-)
I feel very good knowing that my wife can contact me no matter where we are. But our family rule is, if you're driving and it rings, let it go to voicemail. You can always call the person back later.
Sean
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See there. Cell phones and GPS has taken the fun out of travel.
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My cell phone has brought me out of the brink of darkness many a time. I would not be without this little tool. Don't use it much, but it is there if I need it. Best of a wonderful day, great health to all. Cindi
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Sean,
You're fortunate to still have hillbillies. I can remember when they still populated some of the more remote hollows and mountain ridges in Md and VA but they're all gone. Only yuppie transplants and arabs now (invasive species) with their boutique farms and tax shelter vinyards. Not sure if any genuine hillbillies exist in the wild anymore...I heard a while back something about re-introducing them here again......
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I keep hearing the word hillbillies. Can someone actually define them, I have only heard little things throughout my life and it has always held a mystique to my curious mind.
I love the group "the Ozark Mountain Daredevils", that is the closest I can think to anything about this "hillbilly" stuff. Not meaning the group is hillbilly, but the Ozark seems to have a certain connotation to it. Best of a beautiful day, great life, great health. Cindi
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Cindi,
You never seen "The Beverlyhill Billies"?
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Jerry, one of my favourite shows when I was a kid. Don't tell me that is really how life is with these folk? I'm not too sure that it isn't a rather alluring one to me. I kind of wish that I could go back in time to the simpler days. Great life, great day, good health wishes to us all. Cindi
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Does this look like I know anything about hillbillies?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/Jerry-mac/Picture001.jpg)
Yes it is that flat in all directions.
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Sorry guys, I've been using the word hillbilly pretty liberally on here. The "hillbillys" in our area are also known as "white trash" or "trailer trash". They have 20 dogs in the front yard, garbage everywhere, cars everywhere, husband unemployed and drinking Pabst Blue Ribbon, wife pregnant and smoking palm malls, so many kids that they don't know who half of them are. And their house is on wheels. They like to use your property as a short cut to their house and have no consideration of their neighbor's things.
Today's hillbillys are decendants of the romanticised "mountain people". But with the invention of liquor stores, TV, lawn chairs, and mobile homes, the days of the REAL hillbilly are gone.
Also instead of making moonshine, they've discovered that making methanphetimines is more profitable. Even better yet, they've discovered that using meth is even more fun!
That's my defination of hillbillys today. :-)
Sean Kelly
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You wouldn't stereo type would you?
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we have names for people like that in California too.....
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Despite the romanticism, the true American mountain folk were, in most cases, the real deal: honorable, self-reliant and patriotic (the biography of Alvin York -"Sgt York" - is extremely illuminating).
I find that today, the term "white trash" or, more accurately, simply trash, is equally applicable to the gap-toothed cretin in his humble trailer as it is to the cold, un-neighborly creature in his tasteless mini-mansion. At least the former will come over (maybe hide your 12 year old daughter first) and help you work on your tractor.
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You wouldn't stereo type would you?
To a hillbilly, stereo-type means hookin a radio to the computer.
And yes I stereo-type hillbillys cause I'm pretty much one. What seperates me from them is I have pride in what I have. Yes I pick the banjo, grow gardens, own guns, and love to prospect for gold on the weekends, but at least I don't cook meth and have piles of trash in front of my double wide. Instead, it's a manicured lawn with my pink flamingos.
Sean
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Holy smokers!!! I am almost sorry that I asked what a hillbilly is (LOLL). I have seen that type of lifestyle around different parts. It is ugly and a sad thing that people can live in conditions like that. It is hard to imagine that human can have such little self-worth, but this is what makes the world go round, is an interesting place to live. If we all were perfect (like me) (and now you gotta laugh out loud), it would be a boring place to inhabit. All have a wonderful day, great life, love the life your livin' and good health. Cindi
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Don't be sorry Cindi. Now you know. It's just important to always remember that people who chose not to be assets to their communities can just as often nibble brie and sip Chardonay as slurp Pabst Blue ribbon.
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As long as they pick up their garbage, I really don't care what they eat or drink. Just yesterday we had to evict a couple meth head trashy rednecks from one of my dad's properties because he was getting ready to sell it. We gave them 3 months notice to move and they were still there the last day with nothing done! Ends up we have to tear down the house they were in because they completely destroyed it. Their front yard was their kennel for 2 pitbulls, the back yard literally had cars stacked on top of other cars. You couldnt walk inside and it smelled like some really strong chemical, kinda like burning plastic (only could assume they were cooking meth which is a real problem here in the north west), and after being inside the house for only 5 minutes I had flea bites all over my ankles.
Not saying they're not good people. The people that lived there were very nice and almost always paid rent on time. But I'm bitter cause now they're gone but we have to figure out what to do with all this garbage. The people before them left the place spotless. Now we have to tear the place down. Grrr.
Sean
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Sean, bummer, bummer, bummer. What a lot of work you will have to do, unnecessarily. Hmmm..Have a great day, wonderful day, great health. Cindi
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(http://landolove.com/random/cletus.jpg)
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(http://landolove.com/random/cletus.jpg)
Uncle Jimmy Joe Bob is that you???? :shock: ;)
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They promised me they wouldn't develop that photo :roll:
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All right you guys, what on earth is wrong with ya!!!! Have a great day, beautiful life, great health. Cindi
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Oh my goodness, there are "Hillbillies" evar whar I spose...It seem to be a sub-culture in may parts of the country. We have a small vacation home in Oregon, and your definition of "hillbilly" fits a lot of folk there...It is confusing to me, and I wonder what "they" see or don't see when they look at the trashy place they keep...hhhmmm...
That derned meth is one bad poison...my older daughter was hooked on that stuff, and ya know what it did to her?? Turned her into a hillbilly!
I do love diversity though...never a dull moment with diversity hahahaha...
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Sharon, that meth is a nasty. We have alot of kids in our community very hooked. I hope to the end of this earth that your girl was able to get off the crap and never look back. It is such a shame that there is such evil crap in this world, it devastates life so deeply. Have a wonderful and beautiful day, our sun is shinin', gonna pick up my nucs tonight after I drop off the boxes this morning. Great healthy wishes to all. Cindi
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Cindi,
Thanks, do me a small favor and let me know what they said I had to work late today and missed the evening news.
Sincerely,
Brendhan
Apparently, it has something to do with Bush's failed plan "No bee left behind"