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Title: a mercy removal
Post by: TwT on April 27, 2007, 12:55:58 pm
got a call the other day asking if I wanted a hive in a old home that is going to be tore down, I usually charge for removals but I decided to get the bee's, this is one of the biggest hives I have ever removed, it is 3 foot wide and 7 foot 10 inches long, the Floor Joyce are actual 3x12's on 18 inch centers, the house was built in 1919, nobody has lived there for about 25 years, they said the hive has been there about 15 years but when I went in the hive most of the comb couldn't have been more than 3-4 years old but it is full of bee's.... here's some pic's, in the pic's you can see that I removed so comb already on the right side.

here the entrance over the door on the right side
 and that's me removing the ceiling
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pb56e4ca0797980823be9b3eb14b2d02f/e9be9274.jpg)


(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pb7b68ce78016245cceef8590c1d32084/e9be92a1.jpg)

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p42304801364c2cbc7b8447a3884c72da/e9be929a.jpg)

here's a close side view, now remember this is 3 foot wide
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pbbf59af52658e4248be408f75fe19128/e9be928e.jpg)

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pa0a42efeb9542c0f2b534854e1dd82ff/e9be9280.jpg)

Title: Re: a mercy removal
Post by: Jacmar on April 27, 2007, 01:16:32 pm
Wow Ted that is some good looking comb. It looks like you might have been able to make up a couple or three hives from the quantity of bees.  Can you give us some detail on how you went about quantity, how much wax etc etc. I would sure like to have been on that one with you. Probably took more labour to remove the lath and plaster than getting the combs out.

Jack
Title: Re: a mercy removal
Post by: Jerrymac on April 27, 2007, 01:20:47 pm
Are you sure that isn't two different hives? One on each side of that beam?
Title: Re: a mercy removal
Post by: TwT on April 27, 2007, 01:25:07 pm
Are you sure that isn't two different hives? One on each side of that beam?

nope just one the joyce had 4- 4x4 notches through it and comb running through the notches, it was just one hive. that is just a joyce, it has a 1x6 nail under the joyce, looks like a beam but the joyce is notched like at one time 4x4's ran through it...

I ended up filling 22 deep frames with brood comb, got about 2 1/2  5 gallon buckets with honey comb, but this hive is about as big maybe just a touch bigger than one I removed last year.
Title: Re: a mercy removal
Post by: ZuniBee on April 27, 2007, 01:31:19 pm
Man! That is huge! Good thing you had the deeps...don't know what I would have done.
Title: Re: a mercy removal
Post by: DayValleyDahlias on April 27, 2007, 01:33:03 pm
How on Earth did you remove that?  Looks nearly impossible ( to me anyway )..wow!
Title: Re: a mercy removal
Post by: Shizzell on April 27, 2007, 01:57:05 pm
Wow TWT, that is a massive hive. I have a question however. You say you saved the brood. How did you go about that?

Jake
Title: Re: a mercy removal
Post by: TwT on April 27, 2007, 02:32:15 pm
Wow TWT, that is a massive hive. I have a question however. You say you saved the brood. How did you go about that?

Jake


get wood frames with no comb or foundation, cut the brood comb to fit in the frame and then stretch rubber bads around the frame to hold the comb in the frame.
Title: Re: a mercy removal
Post by: pdmattox on April 27, 2007, 02:34:31 pm
Man Ted that is a nice colony.  That should be a good one to raise queens off of.
Title: Re: a mercy removal
Post by: Understudy on April 27, 2007, 04:42:41 pm
So I have a few obligatory questions. 8-)

Did you end up covered in honey?

Did you get the queen? (I am sure she was easy to spot in that crowd :-P)

How many boxes did you fill up?

What was the temperment of the bees?

What tools did you use?

Do you plan on a follow up visit?

Did you have fun?

On a side note. I think that looks excellent. Congradulations. I hope they become some of your best bees.

Sincerely,
Brendhan
Title: Re: a mercy removal
Post by: TwT on April 27, 2007, 05:06:09 pm
Did you end up covered in honey?

I was Black and sticky when I was finished

Did you get the queen? (I am sure she was easy to spot in that crowd :-P)

don't know, had to leave, ran out of time, there was still bee's and some comb left.

How many boxes did you fill up?

2 deeps and a partial

What was the temperament of the bees?

not to bad, I got hit about 8 times


What tools did you use?

hammer, cat claw,bee vac,hive tool, scraper


Do you plan on a follow up visit?

yup because they dad some comb against the outside wall I didn't have time to get


Did you have fun?


at first when I seen the size of the hive, but not when all the honey and dirt started falling  ;) , took about 5 hours start to finish, but still have to go back.

Title: Re: a mercy removal
Post by: thegolfpsycho on April 27, 2007, 06:04:17 pm
That's a whopper Ted.  Great pics
Title: Re: a mercy removal
Post by: asprince on April 27, 2007, 07:39:45 pm
Man what a hive!

Ted.....want to come to Reynolds, Ga. and help a newbee cut out a couple? I have two to remove in June. One is small and will probally be easy. The other one???????. Steve
Title: Re: a mercy removal
Post by: Understudy on April 27, 2007, 08:09:01 pm
Man what a hive!

Ted.....want to come to Reynolds, Ga. and help a newbee cut out a couple? I have two to remove in June. One is small and will probally be easy. The other one???????. Steve
By June they won't be small anymore.

Sincerely,
Brendhan
Title: Re: a mercy removal
Post by: asprince on April 27, 2007, 09:01:12 pm
The new owner does not close until June 1. The present owner may not appreciate me tearing up his house although the bees are the only ones living there. Steve
Title: Re: a mercy removal
Post by: TwT on April 28, 2007, 10:31:48 am
Man what a hive!

Ted.....want to come to Reynolds, Ga. and help a newbee cut out a couple? I have two to remove in June. One is small and will probally be easy. The other one???????. Steve

sure, but i charge for removals and the farther away the higher price, i have a dodge deisel and it cost ;) , just pm me when you want to do them. and like understudy said, it want be small in june....
Title: Re: a mercy removal
Post by: asprince on April 28, 2007, 03:29:40 pm
Will send you a PM and we can discuss details.

You need to convert that Dodge diesel to run on waste vegetable oil. I have a Ford Powerstroke that I feed a steady diet of WVO.
Title: Re: a mercy removal
Post by: Scott Derrick on April 30, 2007, 12:10:51 am
Ted,

Thanks for the pics. Nice. Bet you sweated a gallon. I know I would have.

Scott
Title: Re: a mercy removal
Post by: AllanJ on April 30, 2007, 06:29:25 am
The new owner does not close until June 1. The present owner may not appreciate me tearing up his house although the bees are the only ones living there. Steve

I am not sure I would not close on a house that had bees in it.. I would expect the current owner to get them out, fix all the damage and show that all comb, honey etc is cleaned out. No telling what state the inside is in..
Title: Re: a mercy removal
Post by: dpence on April 30, 2007, 10:57:04 am
Nice,

     You certainly have patience.... :)  And thanks for the tip on how to hold the brood comb in empty frames. 

David