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Hive design information/name
« on: January 25, 2012, 04:49:18 am »
Greetings from a small town near Charleston, South Carolina, USA. I am looking for information regarding the name of or design specifications for the types of hives used in the videos that were produced by the late IWF. The IWF was a German scientific organization that's now bankrupt.  They once distributed these videos freely from the IWF's web site.
I would like to construct one of these hives and give it a try. Any help will be appreciated.
Later,
Ray

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Re: Hive design information/name
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2012, 01:59:58 pm »
Hello Ray

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do you mean the green hives in the video?
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Re: Hive design information/name
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2012, 12:27:11 pm »
Wow... she can really move.

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Re: Hive design information/name
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2012, 11:00:24 pm »
Can't help you either Ray but what a video. She's a lot braver a bee keeper than I am. Good information as well.

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Re: Hive design information/name
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2012, 12:10:59 pm »
The german name from this hive is " Segeberger Beute" with DN ( Deutsch Normal ) frames. The material of this hive is polystyrene.

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John, why do you say, she is braver as you?

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Re: Hive design information/name
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2012, 10:56:41 am »
Micheal

At some point in the year my bees would have me for lunch if I did not wear a Vail,gloves and a suit.
I'm still learning. This will be my third year keeping bees.

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Re: Hive design information/name
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2012, 12:42:55 pm »
Im sure, someday you will work without any "protective clothings"  ;)

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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2012, 02:40:29 pm »

What's the deal with the plastic below the top cover??

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Re: Hive design information/name
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2012, 05:05:43 pm »
I think it's to keep the bee's from chewing on the styrene, just a guess. I thought that I saw a top entrance hole in the side of the hive bodies, in another video.

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Re: Hive design information/name
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2012, 05:08:20 pm »
Michael86, can we purchase the Segeberger Beute anywhere in the USA ?
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2012, 05:32:28 pm »
oops
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Re: Hive design information/name
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2012, 02:23:16 pm »
Well, this is a difficult question. I dont think you can purchase the "segeberger beute" in USA. I wonder that someone will buy this hive here, because in the USA is Langstroth and Dadant the most available system, or is that not true?
However i have heard about a hive, the name is "Combi-Beute" and also plastic/polystyrene material.
And available for Langstroth, Dadant and for german hives Zander, DN.

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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2012, 05:30:04 pm »
Yes, the Langstroth and Dadant are the most popular here in the USA. We have had a lot of interest lately in polystyrene hive bodies. I like the design of the segeberger beute and was wondering if they could be purchased here in the states. I will check into the the Combi-Beute and see what they cost here. Thank you Michael.

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Re: Hive design information/name
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2012, 12:41:19 pm »
Is it my imagination or are those frames a lot deeper than a Langstroth?
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Re: Hive design information/name
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2012, 03:28:38 pm »
Hello Jim,
do you mean the Deutsch Normal frames in the Segeberger Beute? The size of this frame is 370 x 223 mm.

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Re: Hive design information/name
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2012, 05:34:29 pm »
>>The size of this frame is 370 x 223 mm.
   370mm = 14.567in or 14 9/16
   223mm = 8.780in or 8 25/32

The look bigger than that, but I guess that why they sell measuring tools. :-D
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Re: Hive design information/name
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2012, 06:55:52 am »
Michael86,
Yes, those green hives. Wow, I really dropped the ball on this post. For that I apologise. They seem easier to manipulate than the hive bodies I have now (8 frame Lang's). Do they interlock with each other? I really like the top latch.
And yes, She does make this work look easy.
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Ray

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Re: Hive design information/name
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2012, 09:55:37 am »
Betterbee sell polystyrene

http://www.betterbee.com/Products/BeeMax-Hive-Components


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Re: Hive design information/name
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2012, 10:03:17 am »
I liked her shoes   :-D

She treats her bees a whole lot more than we do for the mites.   And her frames and boxes were not glued together as our hives either.   Do bees normally not glue polystyrene together like wood boxes or is it her strain of bees?

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Re: Hive design information/name
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2012, 07:42:55 am »
At first I didn't see the reason for the plastic material on the top of the hive. The videos don't explain. It appears to serve two purposes, one-it keeps the top from being glued closed, second-it would clear the bees from the top seal area thereby keeping them from being crushed. I'm probably wrong but that's how I see it.
I really like the methods they use. I have started incorporating a few of the manipulation techniques suchs as frame placement all to one side. I have to use a follower board to make first frame removal easier.
I don't see the beekeeper spending a lot of time aligning up the bodies, are they somehow interlocked?
Later,
Ray

 

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