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Title: Heilyser vaporizer
Post by: KD4MOJ on October 15, 2012, 10:14:25 am
Howdy Folks:

I just received my vaporizer... heats up but doesn't melt the OA crystals. I mean hot to the touch! Tried with a battery and also a 35amp power supply. Interesting... only only draws 5 volts @ 3 amps.

Any ideas?

...DOUG
KD4MOJ
Title: Re: Heilyser vaporizer
Post by: tefer2 on October 15, 2012, 10:39:29 am
Check your electrical connectors to the unit. You won't be touching it when its starts to work properly. It will burn the skin off of you!
Title: Re: Heilyser vaporizer
Post by: tefer2 on October 15, 2012, 10:42:45 am
If I remember correctly, acid starts to react at around 300 degrees.
Title: Re: Heilyser vaporizer
Post by: danno on October 15, 2012, 12:07:27 pm
when I first got mine I had the same problem intermittently.  What it turned out being is a broken wire inside the insulation. 
Title: Re: Heilyser vaporizer
Post by: KD4MOJ on October 15, 2012, 01:09:22 pm
Check your electrical connectors to the unit. You won't be touching it when its starts to work properly. It will burn the skin off of you!

Ok it's definitely not that hot! I crimped and soldered the male connector that mates with the two females... maybe something came loose after I put it in my homemade PVC handle...

...DOUG
KD4MOJ
Title: Re: Heilyser vaporizer
Post by: KD4MOJ on October 15, 2012, 04:39:05 pm
Another issue that just though of is the length of the zip cord (16 gauge). it's about 10 ft so I might need to shorten that. Curious on the length that others have...

...DOUG
KD4MOJ
Title: Re: Heilyser vaporizer
Post by: tefer2 on October 15, 2012, 07:47:00 pm
10-15 foot when using lawn tractor battery should work. Make sure you stand up wind from the fumes.
Title: Re: Heilyser vaporizer
Post by: Jim134 on October 16, 2012, 05:30:25 am
Howdy Folks:

I just received my vaporizer... heats up but doesn't melt the OA crystals. I mean hot to the touch! Tried with a battery and also a 35amp power supply. Interesting... only only draws 5 volts @ 3 amps.

Any ideas?

...DOUG
KD4MOJ


 Did you buy this new and as their a warranty  :?


         BEE HAPPY Jim 134 :)
Title: Re: Heilyser vaporizer
Post by: Jim134 on October 16, 2012, 05:35:10 am
Check your electrical connectors to the unit. You won't be touching it when its starts to work properly. It will burn the skin off of you!

Ok it's definitely not that hot! I crimped and soldered the male connector that mates with the two females... maybe something came loose after I put it in my homemade PVC handle...

...DOUG
KD4MOJ


 

Another issue that just though of is the length of the zip cord (16 gauge). it's about 10 ft so I might need to shorten that. Curious on the length that others have...

...DOUG
KD4MOJ


Now have you add zip cord to ???  So now you may have killed the warranty OK  :roll:

          


                  BEE HAPPY Jim 134 :)
Title: Re: Heilyser vaporizer
Post by: danno on October 16, 2012, 09:00:14 am
Come on guys This isn't rocket science.  12 volts in the wire that runs down the side and is connected to the glow plug.  This is were mine was faulty.   The wire appeared to be in tack but was broken under the red wire insulation.  This caused it to work one time then not the next.  It also increased the burn time.  After replaceing that wire mine has worked problem free for 4 or 5 years.  A good ground on the wire connected to the handle and it will work unless you have a faulty glow plug.   Try hooking it direct to a battery with just one small jumper.  Dont fill th pot with oxalic maybe just alittle water.   It should boil in about 30 sec.    As for the zip cord I have 20 ft on mine so it reaches my truck battery at all yards
Title: Re: Heilyser vaporizer
Post by: tefer2 on October 16, 2012, 09:32:38 am
Have used cheap lamp extension chord to power the thing. No need for anything heavy gauge.
You are only powering one glo plug. Why the pvc handle?
Title: Re: Heilyser vaporizer
Post by: KD4MOJ on October 16, 2012, 09:47:27 am
Spade connectors keeps the warranty intact.. I'll take a pic.

...DOUG
Kd4MOJ
Title: Re: Heilyser vaporizer
Post by: danno on October 16, 2012, 10:03:35 am
what warranty?   When mine had a problem there responce was "well that never happened before"   You can buy a replacement glow plug from them for 35.00 plus shipping or you could run down the napa and buy a couple for about 15.00 plus no shipping.  
As Terry said lamp cord is all that is needed.   Up until this year I used 20 ft of brown lamp cord but after getting wrapped up in it a few times I switched to orange 2 wire.  
Title: Re: Heilyser vaporizer
Post by: tefer2 on October 16, 2012, 10:13:35 am
I think that the weak point is where you hook your power wire to the unit. There is a lot of flexing of the wire while moving from hive to hive. You have to cool the bowl down with a damp sponge or rag in between hives. If you add acid before cooling it will start to vapor before you can stick it into the entrance. Don't get the glow plug wet or you will short it out.
Title: Re: Heilyser vaporizer
Post by: jmblakeney on October 18, 2012, 01:19:21 am
I wish someone would make a step by step vid on how to make one of these things.

James
Title: Re: Heilyser vaporizer
Post by: danno on October 18, 2012, 09:10:06 am
robo had a set of plans at one time
Title: Re: Heilyser vaporizer
Post by: Jim134 on October 18, 2012, 09:11:39 am
I wish someone would make a step by step vid on how to make one of these things.

James

James.....

Do you have a Bridgeport miller ???



            BEE HAPPY Jim 134 :)
Title: Re: Heilyser vaporizer
Post by: Jim134 on October 18, 2012, 09:16:19 am
I wish someone would make a step by step vid on how to make one of these things.

James

James.....

Do you have a Bridgeport miller ???



            BEE HAPPY Jim 134 :)
Title: Re: Heilyser vaporizer
Post by: jmblakeney on October 19, 2012, 09:52:53 pm
James.....

Do you have a Bridgeport miller ???

No, I don't but I do have a few friends that are machinist.

James
Title: Re: Heilyser vaporizer
Post by: Jim134 on October 20, 2012, 07:28:56 am
Homemade oxalic acid vaporizer

http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3DOxalic%2BAcid%2BVaporizer&w=160&h=120&imgurl=www.bing.com%2Fimages%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DOxalic%2BAcid%2BVaporizer%26id%3DD65C282CEEB37ACE4657E07E5124311D8DB8918C&size=&name=search&rcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com%2Fimages%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DOxalic%2BAcid%2BVaporizer%26id%3DD65C282CEEB37ACE4657E07E5124311D8DB8918C&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com%2Fimages%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DOxalic%2BAcid%2BVaporizer%26id%3DD65C282CEEB37ACE4657E07E5124311D8DB8918C&p=Oxalic+Acid+Vaporizer&type=&no=1&tt=112&oid=http%3A%2F%2Fts3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3Di.4549840035841074%26pid%3D15.1&tit=Oxalic+acid+vaporizer+%3A%3A+Homemade+oxalic+acid+vaporizer+picture+by+...&sigr=1352icsdc&sigi=12ua31g5l&sigb=11vm22q5j&fr=yfp-t-701 (http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3DOxalic%2BAcid%2BVaporizer&w=160&h=120&imgurl=www.bing.com%2Fimages%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DOxalic%2BAcid%2BVaporizer%26id%3DD65C282CEEB37ACE4657E07E5124311D8DB8918C&size=&name=search&rcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com%2Fimages%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DOxalic%2BAcid%2BVaporizer%26id%3DD65C282CEEB37ACE4657E07E5124311D8DB8918C&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com%2Fimages%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DOxalic%2BAcid%2BVaporizer%26id%3DD65C282CEEB37ACE4657E07E5124311D8DB8918C&p=Oxalic+Acid+Vaporizer&type=&no=1&tt=112&oid=http%3A%2F%2Fts3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3Di.4549840035841074%26pid%3D15.1&tit=Oxalic+acid+vaporizer+%3A%3A+Homemade+oxalic+acid+vaporizer+picture+by+...&sigr=1352icsdc&sigi=12ua31g5l&sigb=11vm22q5j&fr=yfp-t-701)

 Hope this help you


            BEE HAPPY Jim 134 :)
Title: Re: Heilyser vaporizer
Post by: Jim134 on October 20, 2012, 07:48:34 am
http://forum.beemaster.com/index.php/topic,29272.0.html (http://forum.beemaster.com/index.php/topic,29272.0.html)

This is a 12V glow plug
Autolite# 1104. Fits 85-87 Golf, 90-91 Jetta.




          BEE HAPPY Jim 134 :)
Title: Re: Heilyser vaporizer
Post by: saperica on October 28, 2012, 02:01:46 pm
http://pcelinjak.hr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=100&sid=8aeb8c29e5688398fd29114b5e48720e (http://pcelinjak.hr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=100&sid=8aeb8c29e5688398fd29114b5e48720e)

here ist linkthat i posted on forum of my  beekeeper organisation, its a plans for DIY OA vaporiser, on a second link is one that i have and use for tretman.
Title: Re: Heilyser vaporizer
Post by: mnevsehir on January 27, 2013, 03:18:26 pm
   
Approximative 320 Fahrenheit